Not a lot of hope according to this article..

Not a lot of hope according to this article..

Postby Kalypso on 01 Jul 2007 00:09

I think everybody in St. Louis has read this
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/entert ... A886257309

So I'll post just the relevant bit, by Our KKiddo.

Q: Is this really the final go-round for the Police?

A: I'm enjoying this, but it's an all-consuming monster. I'm away from home, and I'm not used to that. And I've got a life. I've got symphonies to write, and a lot of my musicality isn't relevant to this group.

Playing drums with these musicians is a blast, but there's more to life than playing drums. What makes it fun is the idea it's finite, coming to the end, with our shaking hands and saying we're done.


:? :( :cry:

I am sure he is right, and he has done a lot of great music on his own. Probably the Police feel restricting now. Still, it makes me sad. The band has shown to have a lot of potential for new material with the new arrangements.
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Postby Wait and See on 01 Jul 2007 00:43

Stewart has been very zen-like about the prospect of continuing. He doesn't want to appear in any way, shape or form to be pushing Sting. If I had to bet, I would bet there will be a new album, but nothing is certain at this point.
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Postby georgygirl on 01 Jul 2007 01:09

Okay, maybe Stewart has this feelings now, but who knows what happens in the future...

Only time will tell the answer.

Don't be sad, just enjoy The Police's ride now.

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Postby Kalypso on 01 Jul 2007 02:10

You're right. I will feel more "in the now" when I convince my other half to shell the dough for flight, hotel and ticket to Toronto..... :(
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Postby DirtyMartini on 01 Jul 2007 02:59

Just sit back and enjoy the ride, kids. You can't have a sunrise without a sunset.
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Postby DirtyMartini on 01 Jul 2007 03:02

[Edited out since I just posted the whole article below]
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Postby empty on 01 Jul 2007 03:29

I admire and understand everyone's hope, but I have to say- it's waaaaaay early in the tour, and if Stewart feels this way now (missing home, a bit musically smothered, etc) then it is likely he'll feel even more so at the end.

Living in close proximity, travelling even under the best circumstances and being away from home can make the nicest people crabby!there are coping mechanisms, but if there is tension there.

I can understand he's missing home- I live in Santa Monica and it's gorgeous here right now- enjoying the sun, sea,and the people!
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Postby kimmy on 01 Jul 2007 07:13

I missed the news storm about the dasaster gig, but the thread I thought was quite funny. Stewart is very honest and something to us might sound right, but to him not!

I hope it didn't scare him off too much, that would be a real shame.

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Postby Divemistress of the Dark on 01 Jul 2007 07:22

I think this is the key phrase:

[quote]a lot of my musicality isn't relevant to this group.[/quote]

I'm sure it's true, but Jesus, you'd never have known it to see him in New Orleans tonight. I was really concerned he'd hurt himself, he was playing so hard (and not just from the misstep up onto the riser during "Ring Around.")

Don't get me wrong, I'm really enjoying this tour. But I gotta admit there's a big ol' part of me that still wants that Gizmo U.S. tour. And another Oysterhead record and tour. Plus whatever else our man feels like dreaming up. (Though I do wonder if Oysterhead could recruit Andy for some guitar duties occasionally. I'm still hoping to see him on Beale Street someday with a beat up ole porkpie hat and stogie.)

[edit: Anyone got a cached copy of the original article? The link seems to have expired.]
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Postby sockii on 01 Jul 2007 11:06

I have to confess -- as hyped up as I was originally over the idea of a new Police album, now I'm definitely of two minds about it.

One on hand, I still think it would be fascinating to hear what they could come up with today (IF Stingo leaves enough room for Stewart & Andy to really leave their creative mark on the proceedings, which frankly I do see as a bit of a big if.) And if they pulled it off WELL it could be quite the triumphant move, espeically given those who don't want to give them credit for doing more than an "oldies" show on this tour.

And yet, it IS a shame to think of all of Stewart's other projects that are on hold because of this and that we're missing out on too, you know? Like Dive, I would love to see Gizmo return (especially for some kind of tour through the US, someday), another Oysterhead album, another Orchestralli...there was that movie Stewart was going to do with the footage of all those other bands in the 80s...there's a lot that's been obviously put on the backburner. Andy too...I kind of miss the days when I could go see him play up close and from perhaps five feet away in a small jazz club, a kind of vibe you just can't get in a stadium or arena.

I guess I miss having "our Stewart" around here too--not to diss the wonderful new folks who have joined up in recent months, but it seems pretty clear that his involvement on the boards has been dampened by all the madness surrounding the tour and the press who right now will eat and regurgitate any word he utters to suit their need to stir up controversy.

So to me, I'm going to "enjoy the ride" for the rest of the year, and if that's that, well...maybe I'll actually breathe a sigh of relief at the end of the day instead of feeling sad about it.
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Postby Wait and See on 01 Jul 2007 12:27

Well, an album is not the same thing as a tour. It's a lot less time consuming and taxing. It's tough to gauge from Stewart's comments in that article whether this is him keeping things laid back, or whether they're getting fed up and realizing they can't work together anymore because they're too set in their ways.

Based on the whole range of statements/rumors that have been heard, I think it's safer to assume it's the former for now.

There is one part of that article where I have to cry foul though:

"Even when Copeland made a movie last year, "Everyone Stares: The Police Inside Out," he says it wasn't "a walk down memory lane. There was zero emotional involvement, though it did settle the account, put a period at the end of all of it."

I don't buy that for a minute.
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Postby DirtyMartini on 01 Jul 2007 12:58

Of two minds, wanting SC to have space for his own stuff, wanting more Oysterhead, etc.: agreed.

Not buying the "zero emotional involvement" thing: agreed. But that's his prerogative to say and not get all Barbara Walters-y about.

There will be some melancholy if/when we see The Police close up shop again, but at least there will have been some closure finally. Plus, there will have been all of these great concerts, all of these great adventures, and all of these great new friends made as a result. Not bad. (Thank you, Stewart.)



Here's the article in toto, Dive:


Reunion is fun, but Copeland says there's more to life now
By Kevin C. Johnson
POST-DISPATCH POP MUSIC CRITIC
07/01/2007

Members of the Police, (left to right) Sting, Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers perform at the Whiskey a Go-Go in West Hollywood, California, February 2007.
(AFP)

It was one of the least-likely rock reunions ever to happen: the Police's Sting, Andy Summers and Stewart Copeland.

The fact that the power trio reunited at the Grammys earlier this year, leading to a full-blast tour that plays Monday at Scottrade Center, is rock history in the making. Even drummer and infamous blogger Copeland was among those who doubted that he, singer Sting and guitarist Summers could regroup in such a fantastic way.

"I'd stopped thinking about it. It's like the shelf at home with the baseball trophy you got and you're so proud of, but a week later it's lost its zing, and 20 years later, nothing. The Police was something sitting on my shelf like a trophy, and since then I'd gone on," says Copeland, who has released several solo albums, scored motion pictures and was music director of "The Dennis Miller Show."

"There was hardly any overlap with the Police. It was not a part of my life anymore."

The group split in 1984 after a decade of critical and commercial successes that included pop-and-reggae flavored hits, such as "Roxanne," "Message in a Bottle," "Don't Stand So Close to Me" and "Every Breath You Take," along with several Grammy Awards.

Even when Copeland made a movie last year, "Everyone Stares: The Police Inside Out," he says it wasn't "a walk down memory lane. There was zero emotional involvement, though it did settle the account, put a period at the end of all of it."

Copeland was prepared to continue promoting the movie at film festivals when the Police "steam-rolled" back into his life.

After not playing drums for 10 years, Copeland says he was urged out of that retirement by his buddies — not Sting and Summers but Les Claypool and Trey Anastasio, with whom he's in occasional band Oysterhead.

Being part of the Police again "wasn't a career move for me, though for Sting it is," he says. "For me, it's just something cool to do."

Copeland talked about the Police's mixed reviews, twisting old hits into new sounds and whether this is the Police's last hurrah. The self-professed "Internet freak" also addressed dissing one of the Vancouver, British Columbia, performances, which he described as "our first disaster gig," on his suddenly controversial blog.


Q: How does it feel to be back with Sting and Summers?

A: Everything is different, and nothing has changed. We all have more wisdom and bring more to the party and are more secure in our lives. Our druthers and likes and dislikes are hardened into granite.

On the other hand, all our characteristics are stronger now. Sting was a (expletive) before, and now he really is.


Q: How much attention do you pay to reviews?

A: I read it all, as much as possible. I think it's useful to know how different things hit different people, and for the most part it's been good, especially in the right places, the big ones. I also have enough faith in myself and the band to not get disheartened.


Q: How do you feel about reinterpreting some of the classic songs?

A: I struggled with that at first. But Sting is a champion of change. He has been playing these songs for 20 years, so I can understand he might want to change. His creativity never stops. It's like an 8,000-pound gorilla you gotta keep feeding. It can be a blessing and a curse, but that's why Andy and I are here, to feed the monster.

But I did struggle, believing we had to give (fans) what's written on the can, because that's what they're coming to hear, not the new version of something. But I really do like (the reinterpretations), and they're not that different.


Q: What's been the toughest song to reinterpret?

A: "Don't Stand So Close to Me." We haven't been able to crack that, so we may have to kick it out. We're just not happy with it, and no one else is. We're still messing around with it.


Q: Is there a song in the set the band couldn't reinterpret?

A: "Message in a Bottle." It's like a diamond you can't move or shape or cut. There's nothing you can do to that song. It has resisted all of our attempts, and we have attempted. The song reasserts itself.


Q: Will different songs be added to the set list?

A: Sting wrote five albums-worth of songs. We want to add new songs to the set, but that would mean kicking some out or using up Sting's vocals until they're sore, and we don't want to do that.


Q: Do you stand behind what you wrote on your blog about the band's Vancouver show?

A: It was a private little joke on my private little site. A lot of artists have their own little sites, and mine is where I write a review of all the things I do and where I might give myself terrible reviews.

I might go through a show with a big smile, but an amp might have gone out and it might be what I call a disaster gig. And the audience has no idea. So I was just sharing this inside gag with a few people, and Reuters picked it up and misrepresented it.


Q: How did Sting and Andy react to the blog?

A: My two buddies have a sense of humor. They first heard about it from the wrong side, but then they got it. We can truly say we're our own harshest critics, and that was the worst review we got. And it was a great gig anyway.


Q: Are new songs or a new album on the way?

A: Sting has written so many songs, and there have been so many blessings from those songs. I don't want to ask him for new songs. I don't even want to ask him to pass the salt. These songs we wrote, they're plenty to work with.


Q: Is this really the final go-round for the Police?

A: I'm enjoying this, but it's an all-consuming monster. I'm away from home, and I'm not used to that. And I've got a life. I've got symphonies to write, and a lot of my musicality isn't relevant to this group.

Playing drums with these musicians is a blast, but there's more to life than playing drums. What makes it fun is the idea it's finite, coming to the end, with our shaking hands and saying we're done.


Q: What reunion would you like to see happen?

A: ABBA. I'm only sort of half-kidding. They did some really good pop songs, though they're probably pretty ugly now. But we were ugly, too, and we're still playing.
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Postby conroy on 01 Jul 2007 13:08

If the only new recording from this tour winds up being the MTV Unplugged show, that is perfectly fine with me. It would be damn near impossible to improve what they did together the first time around, especially if it's all just stuff written and composed by Sting.

I attended the wonderful Video Games Live performance by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Kennedy Center last night in Washington, DC and I couldn't help but think how great it would be if they could do the same thing with Stewart's Spyro music. The show was a lot of fun and is a great way to get kids interested in classical music. It was Stewart's film scores and operas that got me interested in listening to classical music. And it would phenomenal to hear the NSO perform Orchestralli and Stewart's other works.

And I, too, would love more Gizmo and Oysterhead. I suspect once this tour is over, Stewart will be erupting to produce some new original works and interesting collaborative efforts like Oysterhead.

In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy the tour as it continues to evolve as the boys seem to be enjoying themselves more and more with each stop.
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Postby Divemistress of the Dark on 01 Jul 2007 13:09

!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(rubs eyes)

(re-reads interview)

OUTSTANDING. I am just so glad to see that our man hasn't been completely muzzled. I think one can do a lot of reading between the lines, here, and I'm not at all sorry to hear what he's got to say.

Thanks for digging that up, DM. As always, U rule. (sorry for the fractured English, it's just that I'm getting to be pretty good with the textspeak from all these fan get-togethers...."Where R U?" "Did U see that?" etc. Cell-phone texting is also a very useful tool for in-concert communication, I gotta admit...)

ABBA, eh? There's a Swedish band called Dungen Stewart should probably check out...
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Postby olivier on 01 Jul 2007 14:09

When I joined SC.net forum in November 2005, I was far from thinking The Police could reunite for a tour. And I didn't want this to happen, because The Police is a myth that I had to keep as it stands.
I thought it will be ridiculous to see them playing together again.
I was wrong !
They kick ass and they seem to have fun !! even if nowadays they can't capture my attention better than in the old good days !
I'm very happy and impatient to see them in September, but I won't be disappointed if they'd decide to stop after the tour. They have nothing else to prove.
We have to accept it, and appreciate the moment, and get a right mouthful of music and images at concerts.
Then it will be the time for each member of The Police to continue their own activities, and for us to keep up this forum !
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