STEWART COPELAND

by **sockii** on 08 Oct 2007 19:42

Goddamned, Duke, that's cool.

I'm going to definitely have to download some of those.

by **DirtyMartini** on 08 Oct 2007 19:43

HOT DAMN, DUKE! Thanks!

[quote="phaty"]I never managed to attach to the Clash - live might work better ... ![/quote]

My thinking as well. Much obliged!

by **policerule** on 08 Oct 2007 19:45

the clash is my second favorite band behind the police as well as some of you...

that says a lot about why we are here i think.

thanks for those duke! really cool....

by **yobculture** on 08 Oct 2007 20:22

I was at 1984 Civic Center show in San Francisco. It wasn't the "real" Clash because Mick Jones had already been kicked out by then. But it was an amusing show for this quote by Joe Strummer:

"This is punk meets reggae. Not white reggae. We add some of our own culture to it, so this is no ripoff. I'm talking to you Sting!"

Source:

http://homepage.mac.com/blackmarketclas ... cisco.html

Shortly before Strummer died, however, his feelings toward Sting changed a bit. He said, "Hey, I remember seeing Sting giving his all in a little punk club for a tiny audience who really dug it. He has as much right to punk as anybody."

Source:

http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1459372 ... _joe.jhtml

And when told the Police were being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame (along with the Clash) he said, "Good, so they're in too. Do you think everyone's gonna play?"

Source:

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/145927 ... _joe.jhtml

by **GinaSuperCat** on 08 Oct 2007 21:23

HAH, Duke...we missed you and you sure come back with a grand entrance, you punk rock M*****F*****! <grin>

PapaCat has a new toy called "Dime" but...haha...looks like there's more downloading boots in his future!!

And Yob, thanks for the specific sources of the quotes about Sting, nice one-stop-shopping there!

by **William Wallace** on 10 Oct 2007 21:10

Love the clash & the pistols, its just a pity the pistols were so fucked about, not to mention fucked up. But hey, thats rock and roll. The Bollocks was, er, the bollox. Talk about kicking ass. If only the pistols could have held it together for another couple of albums. The pistols were more honest than the clash. Tend to agree with what Mr Lydon has been saying about Sting. Sting is just amazing but he has been a bit boring on stage so far. Come on Mr Sting, wake up and get some fuckn nrg. If you want to do yoga do it but give yourself some uppers before you go on stage...........I can understand why Johnny Lydon has been saying these things..............

by **phaty** on 10 Oct 2007 21:14

If I want to see some jerks jumping on a stage I go to an Atomic Kitten concert ...!
Okay no ...

by **William Wallace** on 10 Oct 2007 21:40

I never realised Atomic Kitten jumped about on stage. Curious

by **smudge** on 10 Oct 2007 21:59

I never, ever understood why the sex pistols got so much attention for so long after their 15 minutes of fame - beyond the fact that they were pissing all over the status quo, and being promoted (literally) to death as counter-culture. There are far, far, better punk bands from the same time. (One at least from Brisbane for fucks sake). There is an energy there, but it seemed contrived to me. I don't love The Clash, but I understand why they grab people. They had something to say.

The 'saggy...carcasses' comment made me laugh, because it missed the point by a country mile. As it happens, nobody is playing like a saggy anything. It is hugely funny that 30 years down the line, someone is still trying to slate this band for not being 'punk' enough.

I've always loved the fact that the police did the ultimate anti-establishment shimmy feint. Take a genuine 'tear it all down' scene, which to my mind was not exemplified by the pistols, jump on that bandwagon for 10 minutes, and as a result get yourself into a situation where you can make the music you want to make. What is more 'punk' than that?

Frankly, what is more punk than -' Fuck it, I'll do an opera.'. Just because you can.

I'm going to get shouted at for this I'm sure ;-)

by **gizboxx** on 10 Oct 2007 22:01

I was talking about the Poilce gig in Torino with a guy who was there too.
Then he said he went to London to learn English as a little kid in 1977 and saw: Clash, Damned and the Police at some club in Soho.
Then again the Police in Milano with Cramps, and then again a couple of times before they broke up. I mean!!!!!

by **Duke** on 11 Oct 2007 12:08

There are far, far, better punk bands from the same time. (One at least from Brisbane for fucks sake). <<

Are you talking about The Saints?

by **Duke** on 11 Oct 2007 12:16

The pistols were more honest than the clash.<<

I don't believe in all that anarchy bollocks - Joe Strummer 1977

The both had different messages. Whereas the pistols said fuck everything and were hell bent on destroying everything - the clash said yes, everythings fucked up. But it can be changed and it's worth fighting for.

There was no need for a second Pistols album. They did it all in one. I can't think of any other band that released one album, called it a day, and had that much influence on music. The album may sound tame by todays punk standards but then again - there wouldn't be any punk standards without that album.

by **georgygirl** on 11 Oct 2007 12:36

Duke, I see you know very well about Sex Pistols.

I will try to get this CD.

Have a good day.

Don´t worry, be happy!

:mrgreen:

by **Duke** on 11 Oct 2007 12:39

Hi Georgygirl

by **gizboxx** on 11 Oct 2007 13:01

Yeah but why no (old) american punk rock is mentioned here?

STEWART COPELAND

about the elder Johnny Sex Pistols!!!

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