Oh, for bleeps sake.

[English-lion]

Welcome Kiki I see this is your first post !

Enjoy the ride



Oh yeah Fuck the critics

[TheEqualizer]

Kaly, if you turn on NBC right now, Roeper is on Leno.

[TheEqualizer]

He's not on now. I only meant at the time I first posted.

[Kalypso]

Hi EQ! My dearest friend...Luckily I was enjoying Bobby Downey on Zodiac on OnDemand yesterday...what a great movie! Maybe it resonated more with us in the Bay Area, but even Jake Gyllenhaal, aka Toothy Tile, left me speechless!

I think that Roeper would have said this was a stinker as well

[TheEqualizer]

I really liked Zodiac a lot. This was reviewed while Roger Ebert was on hiatus due to his illness. However, he has recently posted a late review. He gave it 4 out of 4 stars. I think he posted the review, even though it was late, because he thought it was so great. Roeper actually gave it four stars as well. Here is Roeper's review, if you care: http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/m ... 02.article

Roeper's comments regarding Downey are as follows:
"In a bit of casting so perfect it's almost distracting, Downey's Avery is a brilliant, rebellious, self-destructive manic-depressive drug addict/alcoholic who is his own worst enemy. (One could say Mr. Downey has spent much of the last, oh, 20 years researching the part.) Typecasting aside, Downey is amazing. Rarely has an actor been so comfortable playing someone who makes everyone around him extremely uncomfortable"

Mrs. EQ lived in Vallejo for awhile, so she found the movie to be unsettling.

Roeper was kind of dull on Leno without Roger.

[policefan]

Thanks for the link EQ I watched Zodiac the other night.

Robert Graysmith, that's a reporter, even though he was an editorial cartoonist, because he actually devoted his time into research!

[Kalypso]

Yeah, I KNEW that Roeper would have hinted at RDJ's "typecasting"....He probably has never watched many of his movies. He can play Zodiac, Chaplin, Fur (another one I warmly recommend), Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Gothica, Natural Born Killers, or even Ally McBeal, how about that for a range?
Besides, he has many, many times said that Darkness is his favorite song ever (and sang EBYT with Sting, see my YouTube), so he's one of us!!!

[TheEqualizer]

Not giving anything away, I am not convinced, though, that the guy Graysmith thinks is the Zodiac killer actually was him.

[Kalypso]

Him who, Allen Leigh?

In the movie it was depicted as a no-brainer. Everybody knows it's him and it is so frustrating that they cannot nail him the first time or the squirrel time (YUCK!!!).

They give you many false clues, but you remain convinced, at least I was, all the time that it could not be anyone else.

I was obviously not here at the time, but I have noticed that Modesto, more than Vallejo, has a pretty creepy reputation for many murders happened here and the two hi-profile cases of Laci Peterson and Chandra Levy. The Zodiac was there too.

[TheEqualizer]

Call me skeptical, but I watched some documentary that put too many doubts in my mind. Here's a little tidbit:

"Ultimately, Allen's handwriting did not match the Zodiac's, his fingerprints did not match those suspected to be Zodiac's, no concrete evidence linking him to the Zodiac killings was ever found, and recent DNA testing on suspected Zodiac letters in 2002 did not provide a match"

But I am open to being wrong on this.

[Kalypso]

About the fingerprints: in the movie he says in a letter that he used fake plastic fingerprints, and by the time Leigh died there was no reliable DNA test. Also, the Mark Ruffolo character says that the blood can be the victim's, a policeman's, and does not prove anything.

Wouldn't we made a nice pair of investigators?

[TheEqualizer]

No reliable DNA tests "at the time." But evidence that was preserved can still be tested with today's technology.

My problem is I view things through the eyes of a lawyer. The DA would most probably never be able to get a conviction with the evidence depicted in the movie. But is he the most likely suspect of the known suspects? Surely. I concede that.

But its hard for me to believe that Drew Carey's cross-dressing brother is a serial killer.

[TheEqualizer]

By the way, Fur? I think your love for RD Jr. has distorted your objectivity. I like RD Jr quite a bit (esp in Less Than Zero), but Fur? Come on.

[Kalypso]

I do think it was a symbolic movie about embracing diversity. And I think there was also a high grade of eroticism in the movie, Nicole Kidman did her job well.

Needless to say, if once she shaved him Kevin Costner had surfaced, it would have been VERY different. I do not know, if, as a man, you are aware of the erotic potential of RDJ's voice and eyes.

[TheEqualizer]

Is it just me, or is it odd that Phaty has not posted once in this thread?

Maybe he has a life, unlike me.