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Postby Rusty James on 31 Jul 2007 18:47

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Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 18:50

Word. Jaco was amazing, and he died a horrifying death.
I will check that track out. I was not really into the Who at the time of White City, although I have been a fan forever.
I think that the best bassist I have ever seen live was Dave Holland. I saw him with Herbie Hancock and Wayne Shorter. Another huge performance I saw was Stanley with Al DiMeola and Jean-Luc Ponty at the Masonic in SF.

Now Stewart, or Gio, will kick me off the forum and send me on Stingus...
The fact is, if you are a bass player you have to listen to the greats, and the greats among the bass players play JAZZ. Sorry. :oops:
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Postby phaty on 31 Jul 2007 20:27

You guys are too fucking Jazzy ... that is so ... stinguesque!
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Postby jeffdaweasel on 31 Jul 2007 20:29

[quote="phaty"]You guys are too fucking Jazzy ... that is so ... stinguesque![/quote]

Shit, Sting couldn't have handled playing with Jaco either.
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Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 20:30

Word, Weasel!
He could maybe have tuned his strings... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Jaco

Postby giovanni on 31 Jul 2007 21:42

Jaco is Jaco my friends....Sting is Sting....Stanley Clarke is Stanley Clarke.... we are naming musicians that gave their personall touch to the life of that instrument....each one of them in his own personal way.

With The Police we've all been lucky enough to see the three band members playing with so many musicians in so many different situations that I just really feel very very lucky to be a Police fan... I've learned so much from all of their collaborations, I learned to know names I never heard of and that I discovered....

One example? Armand Sabal-Lecco!
Armand is such a great guy and a great bassist player; I didn't know that much of him since Stewart introduced me to his talent and versatility; he did so much with so many great artists...and he's a really nice person!

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Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 21:43

Gio,
Where is he from? :?:
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Postby mknight on 31 Jul 2007 22:25

Come on, Kalypso! Just jazz guys? I think you're completely forgetting funk masters, not to mention all the creative bassists in pop/rock who chose not to overplay, but write what would work best for the song. Let's face it - most jazz guys have never been able to dodge the fact that they are very arrogant and most of the time are just showing off (on their chosen instrument, during some point of every song).
Having said that, most DO have the great chops to make it fun to listen to ... sometimes. A few here have alluded to writing what is needed, with people like Michael Anthony being right for their group's music. I, as a musician, would rather have somebody who could write something creatively simple just for each song, rather than put something bombasticly flashy that happens to be in that key. I've had run-ins with several of these types of bassists and it ends up pretty much the same, annoying way after a few songs.

Larry Graham, Bootsy etc. are just as good and perhaps more inventive than most jazz bassists. John Paul Jones can not only write great bass lines, but he can arrange as well. I like jazz too, but I have to cut the genre's players' egos down to normal, whenever i get the chance
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CAmeroun

Postby giovanni on 31 Jul 2007 22:34

Armand is from Cameroun.
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Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 22:38

Not in the slightest. There are valued and great players in all the musical areas. It's just that when I want to listen to the pure and simple instrument, the sound comes out much cleaner on jazz tracks.
Only I have seen many, many, many play in my life and without a doubt the ones that have most impressed me are those I mentioned. It is not that I only like the bass players who overplay, but their technique impressed me because you could listen to solos and hopefully learn. Like this girl I mentioned. I was agape for all the Jeff Beck segment.

I was trying to point out, and failing as usual, that there is little love for jazz players over here, maybe because Da Boss is apparently not a fan (btw, I am almost sure that he was being tongye ìn-cheek because if he really didn't would he have formed a group with Stanley Clarke?).

Having said that, I love a lot of rock, funk, pop, whatever bass players, John Entwistle, John Wetton, Chris Squire, Mark something of Level 42 - he was great - the virtuosos and those who serve the purpose of the song and often don't get the limelight.

Peace out

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Re: CAmeroun

Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 22:39

[quote="giovanni"]Armand is from Cameroun.[/quote]

Thank you! Now I have to Google him!
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Postby georgygirl on 31 Jul 2007 22:42

Chris Chaney

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Postby jeffdaweasel on 31 Jul 2007 22:43

[quote="georgygirl"]Chris Chaney

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I worked with Chris in 2005, doing an endorsement ad. He was a great guy and very easy to work with. Not all musicians are, as you'd imagine.

Really nice guy.
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Postby Kalypso on 31 Jul 2007 22:50

I must thank Sting and the Montserrat video for teaching me Message in a bottle (well, not THAT well, but I kinda mustered it)
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Postby mknight on 31 Jul 2007 22:55

I hear ya, Kal. Certainly, if anyone is in the mood to learn about what might be possible with bass, seeing a jazz gig with a great bassist is definitely the right idea. It would be extremely entertaining to see a set keyboardist, guitarist and drummer (such as SC) get on stage and start jamming with different great bassists. Like 2 songs with Stanley Clarke, 2 songs with Flea, 2 songs with this new girl you guys are talking about etc. Now if that ever happened (and it sure as hell won't!!), I bet they would all be interesting in their own way - I just don't think the jazz guys would outshine the other genre's guys. I guess thats my only disagreement ... i think about what even the great Jaco would've done with songs like Dazed and Confused or Black Dog when writing them. Yes, its a horrible comparison and probably makes no sense - but its funny to think about it!!
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