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[Jennythenipper]

[quote="Kalypso"]Question: can you be a Sting and Stewart fan at the same time? Yes. How?
Discuss.[/quote]

Yes. I manage this feat every day. You can love Sting, the way Stewart loves him, with a gigantic grain of salt. You can love Sting and still make fun of him a bit, you know, the way Stewart does. You can love him for the fact that he always has to do the rock star thing so that Stewart can do the work of drumming and making faces at Andy behind his back. He writes awesome songs, he is the perfect singer for the Police. He is Mr charisma.

When he gets diva, pulls out a lute or starts talking about healing, you can pray that Stewart will be there to hit him with a polo mallet, or at least make a snarky, under-cutting comment that defuses the general obnoxiousness of which Sting is capable.

[BongoBoy]

Sure.

How could you not be in awe of STINGO's song writing and vocals and way underrated bass playing. His body of work is astounding, even if some of it I don't freak out over...he has a bucketload of integrity, they all do.

How could you not be in awe of STEWART when he is the most explosive swiping drummer ever. He has shown drummers more possibilities...you can play all the instruments...remember this was way back...before our computer home studio's. He showed me and I did it.

How could you not be in awe of ANDY. Absolute original rock guitar, jazz, spacey chords, delay....lots of space. Huge musician. Awesome guitar solo's in 2007.

I have to be a multiple fan.

Stewart grabbed my ears with the drums...I'm a drummmer first...so Stewart Copeland is always the man.

and lets face it...he has by FAR the BEST webpage I think. Stingo's looks good but I can't pay for that....I mean I just wanna do......THIS!

Ok that's it gotta go back to a meeting.

I "heart' when you use the "heart" thing. It looke and reads good in print...warm n fuzzy.

I think we have the day after "Love in" kinda vibe today.

BongoPeaceO !

[Kalypso]

I just missed a "Do you" *mean San Francisco Waitress?* in that case, but yes, the waitresses are pretty mean over here.

Essay on Why I Am Not a Fan of Stingo.

Stingo has always baffled me as "too good to be true. Where's the catch?". When I saw him this close in the pub, believe me, even if nobody noticed, or pretended to notice him, it must have been 1979 or 80, I could not believe my eyes: he was even better-looking in person than in pictures or video. He was like, more manly, less airbrushed, less tall than you would imagine at the time but still tall enough, looked standoffish but he was "human", just like the hot guy in a pub. This, naturally, was around the time he shot Quadrophenia, his hair were yellow (not blonde, punk yellow) and not after years of debauchery and Tuscan mollification. But there was a twinkle in his eye that turned me off instantly. I am kind of gut-feeling.

That is, I always eyed him with suspicion: everything he says and does seems calculated. He is smart, beautiful, gifted, mother Nature has been lavish with him. But guess what? He is not spontaneous. He writes lines like "In this theatre that I call my soul, I always play the starring role". I think he always acts, in his mind.

Stewart is the opposite. He can be surly, loud, brash, goofy, as he has been described over and over. He is real. He speaks his mind. He loves his gizmos. He can be a little like a cartoon character but this is exactly what I love about him. Spontaneity. Cards on the table. Matter of fact.

Hence my question to Jen and Bongo.

NOW KALI F OFF TO WORK!!!!

[Jennythenipper]

Must not make joke about freaking out over Sting's body of work....

Ok, I can't resist. I've freak out over Sting's BODY of work every day since I was 12.

Also BB, I hearto that you use a different siggy line based on every post-o and it's always funny or at least makes me smile-o.

God are we a soppy bunch or what today?

We need phatty and Duke to come here and sort us out with a giant "Fuck you!"

[Kalypso]

BTW I appreciate your answers, Jen more on why he loves the man under the mask, Bongo more about the musician.
I did not forget Andy. It's easy to love him dearly. He is the stabilizing element.
Andy is the wise, Zen, raconteur guitarist who does not fully realize the extent of his talent.

Love Andy!

[Rusty James]

[quote="BongoBoy"]Ewan is cool, he did The Long Way Around about riding BMW bikes across the world.

"Trainspotting" is one of my favourite McGregor movies. Can't says the umpteen Star Wars prequels do much for me. Jarjar freakin' binks

[policerule]

i can't believe that i had to leave for lunch and miss this hilarity!!!!

bongo, as usual... you slay me. pebble from my hand...

ewan macgregor.. one word "trainspotting" yummy!

i have never been on the boards at TPT or sting's site and i have no reason to start now, so i can't even comment on that! they announced the tour and stewart was the first thing i searched for and luckily found this place!

i think that you can respect sting and his talents, but i'm not so sure that i could ever be a FULL fan of sting. too pomp for my taste. his attitude just gets in the way.

[policerule]

and back on topic about everyone here being cooler...

i need to get a shirt made up for my show and i was thinking something like:
"coplandians unite for world domination"

too much?

or:

"do you sc.net?"

[bella]

You need to use the don't care logo with sockii's pledge over it!!

[policerule]

i'm doing the don't care logo... i will see how much writting my printer will allow. i'm getting a few shirts made. my brother has his own screen printing business. i'll ask if anyone wants one when they are done.

[mardee]

Kali~

I'm gonna do my best at responding to this, while remaining coherent and not pissing off everyone involved. How can one be a Sting fan? and a Stewart fan? I do it everyday. I love what they have each brought into my life and try not to look at their interaction with me as anything deeper than that. Meaning, I love their music. Sting's music, his lyrics, his style has influenced my life. I was born the year The Police began. When the guys went their seperate ways, Sting's solo work was more mainstream, it was more available. My first very own cassette, that was not a copy, was Dream of the Blue Turtles, given to me as a Christmas present from my big sister. I believe her words were, "Now you can keep your paws off my cassettes!" (It didn't stop me from snitching her Police cassettes every chance I got. ) Even when the boys seperated, Sting's music was consistently obtainable for me. Stewart's work is more obscure. My sister and I knew that he went into writing film scores, and classical composition but didn't know what or where. I didn't find out that stuff till the Reunion happened I found out that Stewart had his own site. Then I went looking. I discovered Stewart had been there all along, composing soundtracks to a lot of stuff I was comfortably enjoying. His influence was something I had taken for granted, but it was there, none the less. (Thank you, Stewart.) I can love them both for what they have both brought into my life, wonderful music, and a desire to be better, musically and intellectually.

As far as their looks and their bodies? I think they are both hot. I mean, come on. Sting is hot. Can't deny it. He's got great arms, gorgeous facial features (I love the cocked eyebrow thing too.), and I won't get started on his backside, but he is a nice package to look at. On the flip side of that, I can equally appreciate Stewart's look. The Man do look good in the green shorts. And, there's a pic of him on a polo pony somewhere around that proves he's got just as admirable of a backside as Sting. He's lean, tall looks are not lost on me, and whether it be blond, brownish, or silver (oooh, shiny!) I adore the floppy hair. Yes, both men are handsome.

I don't know them personally, yet, and maybe one day, I will or I won't, but I won't judge their personalities until I've spoken with them. As far as egos go, they all have huge egos. I believe they all have said it before. I searched for this site to find out more about what Stewart's done since they broke up. I ventured into the forum and the, then little, group of people on here encouraged me to keep coming back, because they were the best bonded group of people I had yet seen on a board. I was truly persuaded to the "Stewart side" when I saw the tour announcement at the Whiskey (on youtube) and they showed Sting go straight into the Whiskey, Andy go straight into the Whiskey, and Stewart signing autographs and saying "keep 'em coming, keep 'em coming." My heart was stolen. That sealed it for me, it showed a sincerity in him towards his fans. On the other hand, I've not seen anything to discredit my appreciation for Sting either. For now, it's equal love, just in different ways.

God, I've gone on too long, should have hit the edit button a long time ago. I'm not trying to sway anyone to my way of thinking, everybody has their own opinions, but I did want to voice my opinion on the question you posed earlier.

[mardee]

Sorry for writing a book. I'll go QUIETLY stalk this board the rest of the day.

[Kalypso]

Very sweet and articulated, mardee, and a beautiful explanation of how can you be a fan of both. I have a brother more or less your age, and know that generation gap means a lot. You write very well and poured your heart out. I appreciated your post a lot.
Sting is certainly an extremely gifted composer and musician, a good singer and a decent bass player. He acts and writes well, he is like those kids who do everything well in school, are also "popular" king bees (how appropriate!) and that you love to hate...
I never denied Sting is beautiful, if you read my posts, I have seen him up close twice and can certainly confirm that indeed he is (and if you appreciate Sting's rear regions run to rent Brimstone and Treacle if you haven't already... ).
But to me it's like watching a painting. I can appreciate him (and the part of him that I really get deep into is his songwriting) but some sides of him leave me cold, while others just irritate me.

Like with many here, Stewart was love at first listen for me. It was the drumming, that unique sound, the multicultural rhythms, the multicultural identity, Klark Kent, the family history, the spontaneity and freakiness, his unconventionally handsome looks...that's the one, I thought! He is so unique they must have broken the mold. I have been consistently following his career, lurked here for quite a bit because I am wary of online communities (had a terrible experience once and maybe one day I will get over it), but I got to read his blogs, see him through the years, curse to the fact that he started to make Italy his home while I emigrated to the States, and so on.

We all have egoes, and my spiritual master says that there no such thing as a small ego. Let's say that my ego is more similar to Stewart's, and most of those here....but I love reading why people love Sting so much.

[georgygirl]

Kalypso, you already said that your ego is similar as Stewart's, so how can you describe it?

[yobculture]

[quote=”Kalypso”]Question: can you be a Sting and Stewart fan at the same time? Yes. How?
Discuss.[/quote]

Yes, and it’s really fuckin’ hard. Especially around here! That’s why I “lurk” instead of posting ‘cuz I know you guys will eat me alive. As most of you know, you are definitely the cooler fans. Sting fans are the lowest of the low.

This post is mainly written to Kalypso so others need not bore themselves by reading it! She asked the question so I’m answering it!

I am a Sting fan. And I’m a Stewart fan. I love them both. But being a fan of Sting is one of the hardest and most painful jobs in the world. It’s like saying “My favorite Beatle is Paul.” You’re dead before you begin speaking. On the other hand, being a Stewart fan is easy. If I say Stewart Copeland is the greatest drummer in the world (which he is) then I am greeted with cheers. (Like saying John is your favorite Beatle.) For a brief moment I’m cool again. Until I mention that Sting is great, too, that is... Then I hear the usual: “Ewwwww! Sting? I HATE STING! That adult contemporary crap? Cocktail muzak? All he talks about is Tantric Sex and the Amazon Rainforest! Do you like Michael Bolten and Phil Collins, too?!?”

I think Kalypso’s assessment of Sting is dead on. Instead of dissing Sting with the same tired Tantric Sex/Amazon Rainforest crap Kalypso talks of Sting’s “calculated” manner. I agree with this completely. There is something cold and calculating about Sting. Something is off. There is a coldness in his eyes that is disconcerting and mildly creepy. Sometimes he doesn’t seem real.

But I’m still a huge fan. Why? As frustrating as Sting can be there is something that caused him to write some of the most amazing, magical songs I’ve ever heard in my life. Plus, his cold manner is intriguing. What’s inside? The one time he let his guard down was in a joint interview with Bob Geldof for Q Magazine in 1993. In the interview he comes across as both funny AND spontaneous. Why? Because they’re both drunk. (There are even funny pictures of the two simulating sex.) But what happened when Sting let his guard down? He mentioned in passing the Tantric Sex thing as a joke to Geldof and that was what the media focused on. (Remember Stewart’s infamous post?) Sting never mentioned Tantric sex again; rather, it was the media who focused on it. I don’t think an interview has happened since then that didn’t mention the Tantric sex thing. Why do I bring this interview up? Because something causes Sting to be so suppressed and calculated. This is a classic example of him loosening up but paying for it later.

Stewart, on the other hand, is spontaneous and immediately likable. He seems very real. He’s the type of guy who could be your friend. Classic Stewart is when he tells Sting at Dodger Stadium that everyone has heard the “Andy this is Stewart” joke; it’s perfect. Out of the three members of the Police, Stewart is easily the best interview. Hands down. He comes across as witty, intelligent and spontaneous. (Except for the interviews on the official Police site. He sounds like he’s in an infomercial.) It’s not surprising that he has such a huge following. There’s almost nothing to dislike about him.

So I love both because I need both personalities. Somehow they balance each other out and create something magical. Stewart is the greatest rock drummer in the world and Sting is one of the most amazing songwriters/vocalists ever.

But let’s not forget Andy. He’s like the “Ringo” in the Police: Everyone loves him.

Yes another rambling post by a crazy Sting fan. I’ll slowly back out of here and limit my posts! Sorry!