My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Jose on 20 Nov 2012 22:09

Dear Administrators! My deep apologies, because I don't want to enter into a bad discussion, what I want to do is to reply the comments of member called "Dietmar" all what I mentioned here is my true. Excuse me fellows I'll do it on english and spanish in respect for those who don't manage english.

Hello friends! Not my style contribute to a discussion among fans of The Police. I want to stress the point that the Facebook page (The Police Files) https://www.facebook.com/ThePoliceFansFiles has only the purpose of creating a corner to share memorable episodes of The Police for free and without any commercial or monetary purposes, and also not to promote the main administrator or creator of the page, because the sight of it is that it is for everybody.

About Dietmar's pic. Everyone who surfs the web knows that if you like something you can save to your PC, so one day -through google- I found those pair of photos of Police Art Poster that Outlandos FC sold in the past, months passed and when I had the opportunity to post something related there to share and show, I forget-as anyone- where we got it ... On that way, when he published his demand Dietmar never used the button "Inbox Message Button" to claim it properly, he claim it on public bringing angry words as "Steal" and not only that, because days before he started publishing public comments on the page to attack by his own irony bad style that the page is "superfluous" = Related words: superfluous, useless, useless, wasted, extra excess ... the same with the other fan that also published comments with irony to mock the use of English on the page and the vague "experienced information" of it also Dietmar recommended their friends not to join ... So, by maintaining a friendly community the page decided to block them.

Believe it or not, the page had the main intention that both manage the page too, but his bad manners reversed those wishes. Even before we had received from fans other warnings about them, but I thought they were only brief episodes, the reality is that both don't measure the impact of their behavior and other negativa facts on others fans, reminds me a little one with a German fan who avoid me about e Dietmar that usually mocking me when he chatt on the net or abuse while he insulting Mexican fan "Georgygirl" where that dimenssion shows all his normal attitude that shows up not only caused a great disappointment and grief in a woman, also on Stewart Copeland himself who told me backstage that he suffered when that episode happened.

Moreover, the site is not intended to be a wiki or a virtual museum to compete with anything or anyone, It only has the mission to show the old fans and the new generation of fans, a window with the best memories of our band and promote all that we can help with everything you own, that is for everyone, that's all. If someone does'nt like a page we are free to turn off and leave it.

I tried to ignore all the bad comments from these two, and I do not have the spirit to take more fire to the hell, but in this case I used the forum of Carlos Serrano for having the support of their fans to the page my post didn't use any insult and Carlos and many fans of his forum really knows who is who in this story.

Both images, which Dietmar said I "stole" from him, (I do not remember where and when I save and it was removed immediately) is just a great excuse to stop the page. The reason is simple, the negative comments were a constant and started before the chapter of the photos by saying that the page was superfluous, worthless, that is practically a garbage, and also to mock the page on public.

The reality is that it only cause me shame both being adults behave like children. Is it a sin that the page is run by a fan "No Expert" and who not write prpperly English?. I give my hand and a hug to any fan of The Police who really wants to live in peace and harmony.

Regards ;)

PS: By the way I took by myself some exclusive pics and videos of The Police, Sting, Andy and Stewart that runs around the world and in some cases are covers of CD's and DVD's and I simply not claim nothing, I am satisfied it brings happy to many fans around the world But well is my own essence. ;)


Hola amigos! No es mi estilo contribuir a una discusión entre los fans de The Police. Quiero destacar el punto de que la página de Facebook (The Polcie Files) tiene sólo el propósito de crear un rincón para compartir episodios memorables de The Police de manera gratuita y sin ningún fin comercial o monetario, y también el no promover al administrador principal o creador de la pagina, porque la visión de ésta es que sea para todo el mundo, para cualquiera.

Acerca de las fotos de Dietmar. Todo el mundo que navega por la red sabe que si te gusta algo lo puedes guardar en tu PC, de esta manera algún día a través de google me encontré con esa fotos, pasaron los años y cuando se dio la oportunidad de publicar allí para compartir y mostrar me olvide -como cualquiera- de donde lo conseguimos ... De esa manera, cuando Dietmar publicó su demanda nunca utilizó el botón de "Bandeja de Mesanjes" para reclamar apropiadamente, lo hizó como un comentario de manera pública usando palabras airadas como "Robar" y no solo eso, sino dias antes apenas empezó a publicar comentarios en la página era para atacar con su propia ironía que la página es "superflua" = Palabras relacionadas: superfluas, ocioso, inútil, desperdiciada, extra exceso, ... lo mismo con el otro fan mencionado ya que sólo publicaban comentarios para burlarse con ironía sobre el uso del ingles en la página y de la vaga "información experimentada" recomendando en sus comentarios a sus amigos para no unirse a ella ... de esa manera para mantener una comunidad amistosa de Fans la página decidido bloquearlos.

Lo crean o no, la página tuvo la primera intención de que ambos administraran la página también, pero sus malos modales revertieron dichos deseos. A pesar que antes ya habíamos recibido de los fans otras advertencias acerca de ellos, pero pensamos que sólo eran episodios breves, lo real es que no ambos no saben medir las repercusiones de sus comportamientos negativos que tienen sobre otros fans, me recuerda un poco a un fan alemán que me advirtió acerca de Dietmar que pasaba el tiempo burlándose de mí por el chat o de la vez que maltrato con insultos a la fan mexicana "Georgygirl" en donde muestra toda la dimensión de su actitud que aparece ser normal que no sólo causó un desilusión y pena grande en una mujer sino también en el propio Stewart Copeland que me comentó en el backstage que el sufrió mucho cuando sucedido dicho episodio.

Por otra parte la página no pretende ser un wiki o un museo virtual para competir con nada ni con nadie, ya que sólo tiene la misión de mostrar a los viejos fans y la nueva generación de fans, una ventana con los mejores recuerdos de nuestra banda y promover que todos que podemos contribuir con todo lo que uno cuenta, es decir para todo el mundo, eso es todo. Si a alguien no le gusta a su vez la página puede irse de ella.

Traté de ignorar todos malos comentarios enviados por estos dos, y no es mi espiritu echar más fuego al infierno, pero en este caso yo usé el foro de Carlos Serrano como contar con el apoyo de los fans hacia la página no use insulto alguno y tanto él como muchos fans saben realmente quién es quién en esta historia.

Ambas imágenes, que Dietmar afirmó que "robé" a partir de él, (que yo no me acuerdo donde y cuando lo guarde y que se eliminó inmediatamente) sólo es una gran excusa para que la página pare. La razón es simple, los comentarios negativos fueron una constante y se iniciaron antes de éste capitulo de las fotos al decir que la pagina era superflua, que no valía nada es decir prácticamente una basura, y para también para burlarse públicamente.

Lo real es que sólo ambos me causan lástima que siendo personas adultas se comportan como niños. ¿Es un pecado que la página sea administrada por un fan "No Experto" y que no escriba correctamente en Inglés?. Yo le doy la mano y un abrazo a cualquier fan de The Police que realmente quiera vivir en paz y armonía.

Saludos ;)
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Dietmar on 21 Nov 2012 06:49

aaah, TRUTH written in BIG letters, so this must be real, then ??
there is no truth, there are only individual perceptions and false memories ...

why not answer in the original thread, this makes it even more complicated ?

OK, to the matter:
I always call stealing stealing, because it is.

Why should I keep the conversation just between you and me when you commit felonies openly?
Downloading pictures, forgetting where they came from, then uploading to your page - that doesn't make it a bit better. There are (or were) also photos from Corbis, Wireimage and Redferns on your page - the source of those was never really in question, was it?

I never asked anyone not to join your facebook page.

The Monterrey story with the Flag was another story, but there were internal rules there. And I was not the one who broke them!

Oh, and "superfluous" seems to be one of the kindest worsd to me for just another random page with -excuse my English- stolen pictures.
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby giovanni on 21 Nov 2012 08:07

Hello my friends.
I remember a very old post where I suggested to Jose to be careful about every single pic or video shared in his page, as it may have created a dispute due to copyright. This is what I do suggest once again. If someone claims a copyright propriety or a similar kind of act, it should be respected. This is valid for everyone.
Said that, I don't go into further comments about what is happening in other forums or pages, but I can tell that this is not the place to start such a discussion referred to other areas, and I also don't have any knowledge of it.
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Dietmar on 21 Nov 2012 10:36

sorry to misuse your forum, but this was a means to "contact" Jose (as he had banned me from his facebook pages)
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby georgygirl on 21 Nov 2012 13:43

The Monterrey story with the Flag was another story, but there were internal rules there. And I was not the one who broke them!


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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby giovanni on 21 Nov 2012 14:55

: ))
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Pablito on 22 Nov 2012 03:46

Hi Jose,

People have different ways to show their love for things and part of that comes from cultural background. You and Dietmar are well known Police fans on the web and really help to spread all things Police.
As a south american myself I understand your intention of picking up things from the net and share with other fans for free, it seems to me that you're a generous man but Dietmar is right about giving credit where credit is due and asking for permission.
And also I'd like to say that what came from Dietmar's german ethos and precision everytime I asked him for stuff that he had, was a very friendly and generous behaviour, giving me all stuff for free I must add. I felt good when I was able to find something that he didn't have(pre Animal Logic photos in Brazil) to give him something back cause he gave me way more stuff.

I hope you overcome this issue. Lets enjoy the Police web community together.
One World is enough for all of us.

Best wishes for you all.
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby foxy on 22 Nov 2012 05:42

Hi Pablito
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Dietmar on 22 Nov 2012 10:53

hey Pablito, I couldn't remember from whom I had those Rush Hour shots - it's been a while... Do you own the copyright? If so, can I use some pictures for the appropriate page of the PoliceWiki - with a credit, of course?
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby giovanni on 22 Nov 2012 15:21

: ) (again)
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby ladyhawke on 23 Nov 2012 03:30

i think jose makes mistakes is all maybe i hope every one can forgive in there hearts
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Pablito on 23 Nov 2012 07:01

Hi Foxy, nice socks!

Dear Dietmar, I clicked all those pictures so you can use anything. You could use my bluesman name OneDimePablito for the credit.

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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby Dietmar on 23 Nov 2012 10:51

great, will work on that! - might take one or two day to get to it, but then I'll send a link.
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Re: My TRUTH - Boys Don't Cry (to Dietmar's response)

Postby foxy on 23 Nov 2012 17:10

You could use my bluesman name OneDimePablito for the credit.


Wow, Sexy.bluesman! Great that you like my socks Pablito...
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