OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby DirtyMartini on 19 Jun 2009 19:06

Hi, all.

Slowly, when life permits, I have been working on piecing together the story of that great grody green thing known affectionately -- and sometimes not -- as The Flag. Life has thrown a few curveballs at, around, and through this plan at various times, but while progress may be sluggish, my hope of chronicling this odd little project still stands, and in order to do so, I feel it necessary that I speak with some of the folks involved.

The overall story here is of the journey taken by a little green cloth as it traveled around the world, but the reality is that the flag's story is the story of the people behind it. The people who supported it. The people who made it work. The flag's story is the story of the SC.net forum.

In other words, the flag's story is a story about you.

(Yes, that sounds corny, I know; but it's true, so cut me some slack.)

Much as I would love to, I'm not able to travel to all corners of the globe to conduct interviews; I'll be doing what traveling that I can in the hope of gathering info, but mostly I must rely on the telephone, my Buick, the occasional bus ride, and the luck that some kind folks might just happen to stumble through my neck of the woods. So with the summer months arriving and the possibility that folks will be traveling for business, pleasure, music festivals, etc., I thought this would be a good time to throw open to the forum a call for volunteers.

If over the next bunch of months you happen to be swinging through the lower Northeast/upper mid-Atlantic states of the US within a not-insane driving distance of NYC and would like to share your thoughts and perspectives on the flag that stalked a drummer around the world, please give me a shout, and I'll do the best that I can to work out a time/way to meet.

In-person interviews are preferable whenever possible because I find that being able to sit down and chat face-to-face results in a more comfortable and fruitful conversation. However, I will also be conducting a great number of interviews by phone, so even if we can't find a common geography, I would still love to hear from you.

And if you have some opinions but don't think they warrant a whole conversation, even a sentence or a paragraph of thoughts over email can go a long way toward painting the picture of how the flag project was perceived or received. (Some of the best perspectives that I've gotten recently for a different project were from people who didn't even think they had a perspective.)

If you served as a Flag-Bearer, I can just about guarantee that I'll contact you directly at some point to ask if you're willing to talk about your experiences. But the flag's story encompasses more than just the folks who held it in their hands at concerts: it involves people who encountered it along its journey, as well as many who never had the chance. If you know what the dickens the flag is, then more likely than not, you've got an opinion, good or bad, on it. I haven't set out to pen a hagiography (or flagiography): I think it's as important to represent the flag's downs as its ups. So Flag-Bearer or not, if you're willing to share your thoughts, I'm willing and grateful to hear them.

I know the basics of the flag's story: I know where it went and how. But what I don't know are people's personal experiences: what made you smile; what pissed you off; how you felt to sign it or that you couldn't; how you felt seeing it onstage at MSG; how it may or may not have affected your feelings toward SC.net, toward Stewart, toward the Police or their tour, toward celebrity, toward fandoms, toward each other. I can't say that all material will be used in the final product; hell, I can't even say what that final product will be. But the more information available, the better (I hope) the results, so I would like to gather as much information as possible. I know what the project was like for me; what I'd like to be able to represent is what the project was like for you.

Clearly, my heavy involvement behind the scenes makes me biased; however, I genuinely believe that the flag's story is interesting, unusual, and has the capacity to resonate beyond just those people who were involved with it. I wouldn't be working on this if I didn't believe it. An acquaintance of mine unfamiliar with most of the flag story once wrote (unsolicited):

I'm not that big of a Police fan. I like that one song that starts "My daddy's boots don't fit me / 'Cause I'm bigger than him," but I never got into their whole sound, in part because I'm not a big reggae guy. I like the singles well enough. I actually have the box set, though I don't think I've ever listened to it all.

In any case, point here is that, despite not being into the Police, I am fully into this story. What you have here is the kind of story that will connect with people who are fans of anything, not just this band. At the risk of sounding corny, I think that's special.


At the risk of sounding corny again, I do, too.

If you'd like to contribute some thoughts or opinions -- whether by email, telephone, or over a cup of coffee -- please drop me a line at dirtymartiniii at gmail . com . Opinions of lurkers and irregular posters are welcome; just kindly include your user name as well as your real name so that I can keep track of whom I'm talking to.

And as per usual with my posts, if you managed to read through this entire message, please pat yourself on the back.

Thank you, everyone.
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Tamadude on 19 Jun 2009 23:11

[quote="DirtyMartini"]And as per usual with my posts, if you managed to read through this entire message, please pat yourself on the back.[/quote]

I got through seven pages of Flag Rules; I can do anything. :P

Now if you're talking about reading ALL your posts.....that might take until Tourzilla 2.

I can't wait for the end product, whatever it is!

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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Jose on 19 Jun 2009 23:35

Great idea... me like one of the Flag's bearers have the commitment to improve this project... Nowadays, I leaderate a TV Team, we are busy like in any video projects, but perhaps we will find an space to make my story or a very short version of the whole Flag's story into a video.

I am not confirm anything, but is possible I could narrated my own Flag's story in english, with some music background and layed with some videos and pics into a professional work... In that way, perhaps we could produce the whole story into a short version of around 7 or 10 minutes for having the posibilitie to upload it on "Youtube". First of all I need a literal short version of the whole story and pics of the Flag's bearers... The main chalange is to make the whole Flag's story into no more than 10 minutes, including spaces of music and video between the narrations.

A bit complicated perhaps...
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby luddite lady on 20 Jun 2009 05:35

[quote}I genuinely believe that the flag's story is interesting, unusual, and has the capacity to resonate beyond just those people who were involved with it.[quote]

Yup, I've witnessed this first hand several times. Family, friends, co-workers and strangers sitting near me at concerts have each found the flag's story to be all those things.
Hell, for two years in a row the flag's story has captivated a group of rarely impressed 13 year olds who were days away from graduation and summer holidays. And this particular flag story was told in a language they had to struggle to understand. If it resonates with them, it'll resonate with anyone.

I suspect your in-box shall soon floweth over.
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Maud138 on 20 Jun 2009 07:03

Great idea, DM
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby DirtyMartini on 20 Jun 2009 14:36

[quote="Jose"]A bit complicated perhaps...[/quote]

Haha. Maybe just a little.


Thanks, folks. I'm hoping that the stars will align now and then to put some of you folks and me in close proximity as we move about the world. And my phone bill shall runneth over. (Skype and I are going to get real close.)

If anyone is in even the vague neighborhood and can spare a bit of time, I would be grateful to try and work out a rendezvous. Even if it's in a car or on a train in between destinations. Much of my interview with Dietmar was conducted at 70 mph, so I'm already pretty well-versed with drive-time/commuting conversation.
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Susan on 20 Jun 2009 22:24

Hey Kel, I think I'm vaguely close enough. Would be happy to meet up!
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Chatchka on 22 Jun 2009 14:26

Short Hills, NJ, June 29 - July 2. Will have time on, either Monday afternoon, Wednesday night or Thursday morning. Flying in and out of Newark Airport, so we could meet there too, if that is easier.

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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby D-A-O on 22 Jun 2009 15:27

Might have to Skype me unless you plan on coming to the Stampede :lol:

I mainly recall thinking I am a dead man if I lose "this thing".

That and the germ issue. :mrgreen:
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby DirtyMartini on 22 Jun 2009 19:17

Thanks, Susan. You I'm not worried about for some reason.

Chatchka, thanks! I hadn't realized that was coming up so soon. I'll text you in a bit, and maybe you can email me your plans? Depending on the timing, I might be able to pick you up or drop you off at the airport. Just be warned that I can't ever seem to leave EWR without taking a wrong turn because the necessary sign is cruelly located.


[quote="D-A-O"]Might have to Skype me unless you plan on coming to the Stampede :lol: [/quote]

Haha. If Calgary weren't such a schlep, I might have considered it!
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby sockii on 22 Jun 2009 23:10

Um well, you know where I'm at. Not too far away. Maybe you could come down to Philly for a day and hit all the local peeps at once? (Heck, my house is gonna look so clean and sparkly by the end of this week, all things willing, that I'm thinking I should host a "last time" party at the place this summer anyway...hopefully AFTER I get an offer on the place so I don't NEED to keep it so neat and tidy afterwards...)

I may/hopefully pass through the NYC area at some point this summer but have no idea when due to life and shit.
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Divemistress of the Dark on 23 Jun 2009 01:13

Hmmm. Yeah, I've got a plane layover in September but dunno how long it'll be. I'll see if I can talk Mr D into a long weekend up thataway before too much longer.

Is it too early for me to start looking forward to reading this book?!?? Cause I'm kinda wetting my pants in anticipation, already. ;)
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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Maud138 on 23 Jun 2009 05:55

Divemistress of the Dark wrote:Is it too early for me to start looking forward to reading this book?!?? Cause I'm kinda wetting my pants in anticipation, already. ;)


Maybe we should encourage DM the same way we did with Stewart:

WRITE WOMAN! WRITE!

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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby Schmaffy on 23 Jun 2009 17:02

[quote="Maud138"][quote="Divemistress of the Dark"]
Is it too early for me to start looking forward to reading this book?!?? Cause I'm kinda wetting my pants in anticipation, already. ;)[/quote]

Maybe we should encourage DM the same way we did with Stewart:

WRITE WOMAN! WRITE!

:wink: :P :P :P[/quote]


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Re: OT: Flag interviews-by phone or if you visit NYC/east coast

Postby conroy on 23 Jun 2009 22:27

I have some Megabus tickets I need to use soon. Also, one last party at Sockii's place would be fun, too!!!!
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