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Everyone Stares Derangements

PostPosted: 09 Oct 2006 18:12
by jedsoon
[quote="john"]Hi,

I just got the DVD, and have been unable to find the Derangements easter eggs people have mentioned. Is there a way to access them directly, or do you just mean that they play in their entirety during the menus?

If it's the latter, then according to the credits there's seven tracks used in the film, but only six available during the menus. If anyone could clue me in where to find "Enough for you and me", I'd be mui grateful!

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i was going to start a thread on this topic after i'd had a chance to further explore the dvd, but i guess now is as good a time as any.

i should clarify that i have yet to watch the commentary or bonus footage, so i may be missing some things.

but i noticed with great relish that stew utilized his menu screens to give us complete versions of the derangements without chatter or other sounds cluttering them up. i find it a very interesting way of getting around not being able to just release them outright on cd. at least not yet, anyway.

but i have only found four of them: one on the main menu screen, one on each chapter page, and one on the audio setup page. john, you mention locating six this way. what am i missing?

i went over every menu screen i found with my remote's directional pointer. i literally went every direction from every clickable point. i never uncovered even one "easter egg", which is usually a clickable link that isn't visible on the screen and must be found thru such experimentation.

conroy mentioned discovering some, which is another good reason to jumpstart this discussion. can anyone post a definitive list of all the derangements available on the disc in their entirety (ie, not mixed in to the film's soundtrack), as well as how to access them?

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 02:54
by Divemistress of the Dark
What the hell? Easter eggs?!

OK, Stewart, I think you may have some 'splaining to do as to why you haven't told us about this yet! :)

[quote]stew utilized his menu screens to give us complete versions of the derangements without chatter or other sounds cluttering them up.[/quote]

HMMM. I think I may have a nifty utility that would allow us to isolate those songs, and dump 'em onto a CD...I'm going to conduct a bit of experimentation on my own.

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 03:56
by john
Okay, according to the end credits, the Derangement tracks are:

1. Put Out the Red Light
2. Strange Obsession
3. Train Just Coming
4. Enough For You and Me
5. Footsteps
6. I Can't I Can't
7. So Close to Me

Here's where I found them in the menus:

1. Extras (main page)
2. Extras > Behind Andy's Camel
3. Extras > Live Shards
4. ???
5. Chapters (second page)
6. Chapters (first page)
7. Setup

Likewise, I could find no hidden buttons or screens. Conroy, any help with #4?

I easily captured all the tracks except #4 to CD-quality AIFF files using WireTapPro. These can easily be converted to MP3 or AAC in iTunes. I would be a little reluctant to start sending them around, however, if it would mean incurring the wrath of Stewart (or more likely the Stingster).

It's simple enough, though if you have the DVD -- download Wiretappro from VersionTracker, pay the shareware fee, and hit "record"!

John

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 04:36
by jedsoon
aha, i failed to locate the other two due to not clicking thru the extras links. still saving that stuff for some evening when i've more time. muchas gracias, john. and welcome aboard!

i have to think that the credits for the film refer to music actually contained in the soundtrack and do not necessarily apply to the menu screens. i seem to remember he had done more than seven anyway. i think it's likely we'll see them released eventually as part of some reissues of some sort.

peter gabriel did this too with white ashes, although it sounds more like different snippets of a remix on his menus. one day i'm planning to record the audio and make my own mix.

as far as easter eggs for everyone stares, well, conroy is the one who originally used the term in the first place. he could have just been referring to the presence of the songs themselves, without intending that they were something we would have to dig for. so, maybe he'll poke his head in here to clarify his statement.

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 05:13
by copelandos_damour
I absolutely love those tracks! I listen to them when I excersize.
Used Nero to get the tracks from the dvd on to cd.

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 05:17
by Mrs. Gradenko
Can you email them to me?

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 14:14
by copelandos_damour
I'll try my best, Erin, but my computer is usually very slow when I upload big files in e-mails. I'll try, though! ;)

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 14:39
by Captain Blood
If anybody is interested I can send them as MP3

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 14:44
by georgygirl
So kind Captain Blood.

For sure many Police/KK fans will be interested on it...

:wink:

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 16:19
by john
[quote]i have to think that the credits for the film refer to music actually contained in the soundtrack and do not necessarily apply to the menu screens. i seem to remember he had done more than seven anyway. i think it's likely we'll see them released eventually as part of some reissues of some sort. [/quote]

Yeah, that's what I meant -- the credits list the tracks that are used in the film. Six of those seven are in the menus. You've heard there are more?

Rumor I heard was that Stewart wanted to release them as an album but Sting nixed it. I think they're incredibly cool, and would have happily bought the CD. Mixing the original Don't Stand with the '86 version was particularly clever!

John

PostPosted: 10 Oct 2006 21:44
by Howstupidmrbates
There was one more derangement used in the bonus footage...Does Every Stare, which sounded particularly interesting. I have had the other derangements on cd for some years now. Not too hard to find if you know where to look friends. It's really easy to put any audio source onto a regular cd if you have adobe audition, or even sawpro. Adobe is much simpler to use though.

PostPosted: 11 Oct 2006 02:08
by Divemistress of the Dark
Maybe we'll need to get some clarification from the management as far as which items they'd prefer we copy for our own internal usage, and which things they'd rather we didn't. Clearly none of us would ever copy anything to sell for profit (and honestly I'd much rather buy CDs/movies/what have you from Stewart as official releases, than some experimentation that may or may not be how he'd want to deliver the final enterprise...but your mileage may vary, obviously.)

PostPosted: 11 Oct 2006 15:52
by john
[quote="Howstupidmrbates"]There was one more derangement used in the bonus footage...Does Every Stare, which sounded particularly interesting. I have had the other derangements on cd for some years now. Not too hard to find if you know where to look friends.[/quote]

Does your CD have any other tracks besides the seven I listed? If you wouldn't mind e-mailing me an MP3 or AAC of "Enough for you & me", I'd greatly appreciate it.... I've got a bunch of rare stuff -- perhaps there's something I can send you in exchange.

John

PostPosted: 11 Oct 2006 17:12
by Dietmar
once and for all:

t h e r e w e r e o n l y 7 d e r a n g e m e n t s on Stewart's original derangements CD !

the DOES EVERYONE STARE track is an afterthought

PostPosted: 11 Oct 2006 17:37
by STEWART
Actually there are a couple more...
There is a Does Everyone Stare, which was an afterthought for the extra DVD material (actually includes a few bars of GZMO – don’t tell A or S). And then there is, as an after after thought, a little version of Bring on the Night, which NO ONE has heard but Andy – who hates it. They may appear soon in the Vault...

That makes nine.