Tension

[kypolicefan]

I was listening to some old concerts and really noticed that the tension between the boys was so evident back then. Even when Sting would introduce a song such as Walking On the Moon, he would sound ticked off, "Anyone see the moon, it has always f***ing been there".

Wonder if we will see any of this as the tour winds down?

YO!

[Tamadude]

[quote="kypolicefan"]

Wonder if we will see any of this as the tour winds down?[/quote]

No, we won't.

The difference being - now they are swimming in gobs and gobs of endless cash.

Not that they don't deserve it though.

[New Zealand Promoter]

i would *love* to hear sting start making anouncements like "this next song is about fucking! and you know that!"

[DirtyMartini]

I'm personally hankering for some "So Lonely" banter:

Sting: I feel so --
Stewart: Like a twat!

[secretjourneyranch]

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[D-A-O]

I was watching Everyone Stares and one clip showed Stewart's skins with swears....can't recall exactly ....."c*nt" and a few others.
In reading the Montreal concert review I learned these were written by Stewart and directed at Sting.
It went both ways.

[Kalypso]

It's Kiss Me You Fool now.

IT used to be F** Off You C**t and translated also in Japanese.

I don't think they have that kind of tensions anymore. Simply, Stew and Andy have accepted the Dictatorship-o.

I have to admit that, even grateful for all he has given and done, I resent Sting for not allowing Stewart and Andy's material being played on this tour. There are many fans who would love to hear their songs and the new arrangements.

[Franco]

Totally agree with Kalypso but will be harsher. Although greatful for his unique songwriting and different vocal approach, it all seems to be all about Sting and to be honest and in a funny sort of way, I'd rather see Stewart drumming with Andy, with some session bass player, just jamming to the break o' dawn, than have to fork out 200 notes for a decent seat to make my dream come true. I'm probably never gonna see the Police ever (I've got 7 days to sort it) and its a tragedy but I just don't like Sting anymore. The geezer seems to be controlled by his wife and therefore his wife probably allowed him to do this reunion because he's making £50million + and demands extra for his green efforts. I'm sorry Gordon but you've got enough money for yourself already without banking another £50mil just cos your wife has over spent.

This ain't rock 'n roll guys. What happened to the Sting that moved to London with him and Frances sleeping on the floor with baby Joe , with only a chance of a music career. I'll tell you what it is, he's a sell out and it's because of him that this tour has not gone a big as it should've done just because he's demanded top dollar. I bet Stewart and Andy would've been happy with £5million each. He was better when he normal.

I'm sorry if I offend anyone but he's just a muppet. He reminds of Blair. He should've been a politician not a songwriter. It's all about having the power and being the boss and laughing at the people below him. Fcuk off Sting. Be normal again, people like you that way.

[Max Taffey]

I'd love to know the final, definitive answer about the drum message. I've heard Sting say it was directed at him, but I've also heard Stewart himself say that was crap - it didn't have anything to do with Sting.

[samburusunset]

We all know of the famous tension that was between the boys. They insist it was always over the music. It's up to you whether you believe that or not.

I get a chuckle everytime I hear the older ('78?) live version of
So Lonely when Sting introduces the song, "I feel so lonely" and Stewart yells out "I'm not surprised!"

But, as far as them physically fighting, what brothers (aside from the Osmonds) haven't wanted to beat the crap out of each other at one time or another?

[Max Taffey]

Franco - I guess this just proves why you can't please everybody. There will always be someone who focuses on the negative, and wants more.

Your complaints are your opinion, but to me they don't stand up to scrutiny. Ticket prices? Yeah, they were expensive, but no one is holding a gun to your head telling you you had to pay for the best seats. You could go for $60.00. Look at Genesis, Van Halen, The Eagles, etc. They're all charging around the same - did Sting set those ticket prices too? Are they all controlled by overspending wives?

You're sure Stewart and Andy would be happy with £5million each? Maybe you're right. I expect after this concert we'll see that they donated all of their proceeds to charity then.

As far as "What happened to the Sting that moved to London with him and Frances sleeping on the floor with baby Joe , with only a chance of a music career.", that's an easy one. He became successful. You might as well ask why the Rolling Stones don't still live together in a slummy flat. Why would you expect anyone to remain unchanged from what they were when they were 23 years old? If you've read Andy's excellent book, you'll find he himself admitting to falling into the selfish rock and roll lifestyle, feeling entitled to being treated like he was above everyone else. It happens, and it's ugly, but do you believe you would be any different if it happened to you?

I'm not gonna complain about a damn thing re: this reunion. It was dream come true to me - I never saw them back in the day, but I always promised I'd pay whatever they asked if they ever reformed. They didn't disappoint in the least. I have ZERO regrets.

[Kalypso]

"I'm not surprised"

They say in press that's "sibling" fighting (Yeah, Right). It is the easy way to explain it.
But there HAS to be more than that. The main reason bands split up are Money, Moolah, Mazuma. Who makes more of it, which way it's split.
The second is in most cases women if like Franco suggests, Trudie has Yoko'd the Police (I personally have a hard time believing that Stingo is dominated by his wife, the guy's too smart), like Stevie Nicks Yoko'd Fleetwood Mac, Kate Hudson Yoko'd the Black Crowes (Karma has already taken care of that), and, most famously, Courtney Yoko'd Nirvana (although there was much more than that involved in this case, and really Dave had written only 1 song for Nirvana, Marigold, while Chris had written none, so in this case I saw the 75%, 25%, 25% kind of fair).

In the case of the Police, there is the Beatle dynamics. Who really started and dictated the concept and the direction of the Beatles until 1966-67? John. Who took over in 1967? Paul. John adopted the passive aggressive attitude and tried to sabotage the band literally (the Let it Be case).
John was eternally resentful of Paul taking over His band and making it into something else which he did not recognize.
On a slightly smaller scale, I have always thought that this is the real issue with the Police.

[Max Taffey]

[quote="Kalypso"]
In the case of the Police, there is the Beatle dynamics. Who really started and dictated the concept and the direction of the Beatles until 1966-67? John. Who took over in 1967? Paul. John adopted the passive aggressive attitude and tried to sabotage the band literally (the Let it Be case).
John was eternally resentful of Paul taking over His band and making it into something else which he did not recognize.
On a slightly smaller scale, I have always thought that this is the real issue with the Police.[/quote]

I'd never really thought of it that way before. Interesting idea.

[Kalypso]

But then, Stewart is not John Lennon.
He has the same kind of wry humour sometimes, but I think he actually loves to do other things with music, and found a way to express himself differently.

Yes, the reunion is a dream come true. It really is. But when is my dream of listening to Darkness, Nothing Achieving, Fallout, Peanuts, Omegaman, The Other Way of Stopping come true?

Will Sting block the dreamed of "Fallout" in Paris because he did not write the damned thing?
And isn't this compositive dictatorship preventing the making of a new album? Stewart wrote ballets and soundtracks since then. Andy is a very accomplished musician. Would they accept Sting to be the Sole Composer when it's clear to all that the last decent song he wrote is Desert Rose? Is this the reason why the Police Tour happened? Make people forget the Lute and give the Newcastle Bard career another boost?

Time will tell, and, as always, these are my OPINIONS.
Good night, and good luck
[throws away crumpled paper a la Keith Olbermann]

[TheEqualizer]

Nivana was split 75% 25% 25%? That's 125%
Regardless, I am a HUGE Grohl fan, but I would have to agree that Dave should have gotten a minority share of things. Arguably, Krist should have gotten more, due to seniority. So, I think the split should have been 75-15-10 (or 85-25-15 if you want it to add up to 125% )
BTW, Foo Fighters played in LV last night (MTV Video Awards)


I don't think that the band (the Police) broke up cuz the band began straying from SC's concept of what the Police really was about and should be (thought I think that was what was happening). Despite all the aggravation and frustration SC and (to a lesser extent) Andy were having in the GITM and (esp) Synch eras, I think they would have put up with Sting had Sting chosen to go on with them. I think Sting thought he could do it without SC and Andy (replace them with top notch jazz guys or whoever he wanted to work with, that he thought were probably as good as them) and would not have to argue about creative issues or financial things as it would no longer be the Police but just Sting.