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Postby Rhianntp on 26 Jun 2007 04:56

Hi there! Hope all is well with you guys..
I wont be able to afford tickets, but I'm thrilled to death that y'all are back together again! I was in 8th grade when Synchronicity was released. I still have all the Police albums on vinyl yet hehe.

Just sitting here listening to "Goodbye Elenor" by TOTO wondering what your thoughts were on the late Jeff Porcaro. Were you a fan of his? Ever meet him? To my ears and eyes there have been no better folks ever to pick up a pair of sticks than you and Jeff. Truely a tragedy when he passed away.
I'd be interested in what other people who frequent this forum think of Jeff Porcaro as well.
Thanks for being a part of the sound track to my life growing up and beyond!
Wishing You, Sting, Andy, and your families all the best.

~William 8)
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Postby Laz on 26 Jun 2007 06:30

Obviously I'm not Stewart Copeland, but since you also mentioned other people who frequent this forum... he's a very important influence for me, in terms of setting a very high bar for aspiring studio drummers. (For example, his work on some of the Steely Dan stuff definitely speaks for itself.)

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Postby DirtyMartini on 26 Jun 2007 12:26

Welcome, William.
Dramatic highlights & a unique musical cosmos. Guaranteed.
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Postby Rhianntp on 26 Jun 2007 16:13

Thanks for the welcome !

Yes, Jeff definitely set the standard for all studio drummers....it's hard to find a great song from the mid seventies through the late 80's that didnt feature him 8) instantly recognizable sound....His work in Toto is something to savor as well...they had several "hits" over the years , but it's the deep cuts from all those albums that really showcase his skills....
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Postby jeffdaweasel on 26 Jun 2007 16:28

I am also not Stewart.

However, I think this is a good opportunity to point something out: my enjoyment of Stewart's drumming is in somewhat of the opposite direction as I'd find an appreciation of Jeff Porcaro, or Vinnie Colaiuta, or Steve Gadd, or Dave Weckl.

Those guys are amazing drummers, but what they bring to the party is perfectionism. Stewart's innovation comes from a different angle: he isn't perfect, in the most beautiful of ways. I know some of you will be surprised at this, but I actually hear a lot of Keith Moon in Stewart's drumming. It's almost like the drum equivalent of a lead guitarist. Stewart is never afraid to start a fill in the middle of the bar, or to go over the "1" during a hi-hat/tom roll.

In fact, if forced to use a one-word description of Stewart's drumming, I'd choose the word "fearless". Yeah, he'll have some tempo issues from time to time that you don't get from the human metronomes out there. So be it: it's what makes the Police so exciting. You could never take Sting and Andy and pair them with another drummer and call it "The Police". He's one of the only drummers out there on a short list from history -- Keith Moon, John Bonham, and a few others -- that define the sound of their entire band.

I consider myself lucky to have had such an amazing musical influence as him... and I'm not even a drummer!
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Postby Rhianntp on 26 Jun 2007 17:18

well said Jeff...I think that is what pulled me to Stewart and the Police... the living on the edge kind of playing...very powerful stuff...it's a controlled power within a bit of chaos...
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Postby jeffdaweasel on 26 Jun 2007 18:08

Yes, Rhianntp, controlled chaos is a good description.

You sometimes get the idea that ANYTHING could happen while you're watching/listening to Stew. Again, that's not to take away from guys who do super complicated but more robotic fills and beats.

But I can't imagine Jeff Porcaro playing a punk tune, while it's easy with Stew. That says something on its own. :)
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Postby Rhianntp on 26 Jun 2007 18:15

by the same tolken I can't imagine Stewart behind the kit for "lowdown" or "Lido Shuffle" by Boz Scaggs :D ..Porcaro gems for sure..
by the way, give a listen to "Jake to the Bone" by Toto... its on the last album before Jeff died....it's not punk , but it sure is an amazing drum ride.... 8)
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Postby jeffdaweasel on 26 Jun 2007 18:17

Totally true. Boz Skaggs would have pulled his hair out with Stew's drumming over those tracks.

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Postby Rhianntp on 26 Jun 2007 18:22

I really hope Stewart will be able to read this and respond... Love to hear what he thinks of other drummers 8)
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Postby Kim on 27 Jun 2007 02:39

He once told me he thought Lars Ulrich was "grumpy", lol!
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Postby zilboy on 27 Jun 2007 02:53

What drummer hasn't fooled around with the "Rosanna" shuffle during soundcheck? So much taste and panache.

I was at work when I heard of Jeff's passing. My co-workers thought I was crazy to be so upset over the death of some silly drummer. A few nights later, the band I was in was rehearsing at the keyboard player's house. I was playing a red Pearl kit that the keyboard player was letting an aqauintance stash there. The owner of the kit showed up later and told me that it was a kit that Jeff Porcaro had used in a clinic. I felt truly honored to be playing a kit that those famous hands and feet had made magic on. I got really drunk and cried on my (future) wife's shoulder when I got home (Yes, really!) :cry:
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Postby Rhianntp on 27 Jun 2007 03:15

great story! thanks for that 8)
I found a great link about Jeff with several musicians telling stories and sharing feelings about him... here is the link for anyone interested.... its a great read for anyone who loves music:

http://www.granatino.com/sdresource/md2.htm

Those ghost notes in "Rosanna" are god-like :)
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Postby Rhianntp on 27 Jun 2007 03:26

Kim.. Lars often looks grumpy .. hehe :D :lol:
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Postby Rhianntp on 28 Jun 2007 01:33

/bump for Stewart 8)
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