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Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 06:58
by TheEqualizer
What really got me hooked on STEWART? His hi hat. ELTSDIM, particularly. God I love it. I have Red Rain on my iPod just so I can listen to the first 10 seconds of it with SC's tasty hi hat work once and a while for a quick fix.

Anyway, I just thought I would post some other great hi hat stuff:

Max Roach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8syiOww ... re=related

Buddy Rich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOAi-g-9L-c&NR=1

Steve Smith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rwYqA3GFA0

Jojo Mayer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CTK5aAf8d4

God I love the hi hat, and I guess that's why I love STEWART. In my book, he's better than all of the above, cuz he's got more soul and is not just technique.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 07:34
by TheEqualizer

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PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 10:43
by smax
i raise my hat.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 15:42
by Divemistress of the Dark
Two thumbs up. Thanks.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 17:36
by zilboy
You've neglected Papa Jo Jones (Count Basie), who pretty much invented all those hi-hat tricks, not to mention Chick Webb, for whom the hi-hat was invented.

I've always considered Stewart to be the "Papa Jo of Rock", not only because of his prowess on the hats, but also because of his impeccable feel.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 18:51
by TheEqualizer
zilboy wrote:You've neglected Papa Jo Jones (Count Basie), who pretty much invented all those hi-hat tricks, not to mention Chick Webb, for whom the hi-hat was invented.

I've always considered Stewart to be the "Papa Jo of Rock", not only because of his prowess on the hats, but also because of his impeccable feel.


I did not mean to slight anyone by not failing to mention them. I simply was posting youtube clips that I quickly came across as I was falling asleep last night.

Little known EQ fact. I tell everyone that the Police was the first concert I ever went to, but technically, the first concert I ever went to was the Count Basie Orchestra shortly before his unfortunate death.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 26 Feb 2010 20:39
by Tamadude
Hats off to the hats, for sure!
Jojo Mayer is unfuckingbelievable.
I have his instructional DVD "Secret weapons for the modern drummer". Highly recommended.

8)

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 27 Feb 2010 17:45
by dontboxmein
If you can't play hi-hat like a drum go back to school and learn how...very important!!!!

Players who use hi-hat like a drum...

Stewart Copeland
Vinnie Colaiuta
Manu Katche
Dennis Chambers
Bill Bruford
Chad Wackerman
Terry Bozzio
Brian Blade

and others....

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 27 Feb 2010 21:22
by plutonic
Thanks EQ!!

Can't wait to watch that Max Roach link. I've heard he used to do this whole seminar on the hat when he was teaching at UMass. Sorry to have missed that....

This is a most timely thread.
Yesterday, I bought the first piece of real drum hardware I've ever really owned. (My Rolands don't count.) Oh yeah, I do own a real kick pedal (Pearl) and some sticks, though. And a Roc'n'Soc. That's it though. :)

I wanted my first purchase, the beginning of my own real set, to be hi-hats, on account of Stewart.
(However, I'm still waiting for Stewart's Signature Hats. Do these exist?)
For now, I use loaners for Jam Class.

But when I can get those hats, now they'll have something to sit on.

My first piece of drum gear, to which I will definitely toast some tequila when it arrives:
A DW 9550 Hi Hat Stand!
http://www.musicplayers.com/reviews/dru ... Whihat.php

I bought this stupidly expensive Hi Hat Stand because it will allow me to position the hats in the middle.
(I'm cheating. No crossing over sticks for me!)

I wanted the hi hats in the middle ever since I read this:
http://www.drummercafe.com/education/le ... ement.html

So I experimented with having the Hi Hat in the 12 O'Clock position on my rolands and LOVED it.
After a few weeks of not being able to reproduce that muscle memory in Jam Class, I was sold and found this:

Http://remotespeedyhat.com

I almost bought that deal. It looks well made and cool, but I thought the DW Universal Linkage design was better. And I figured, well, I hope I'll every only buy one Hi Hat stand, so getting one that has this ability was worth it.

I am very excited to try this thing this week.

dc

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 27 Feb 2010 23:30
by Tamadude
plutonic wrote:(However, I'm still waiting for Stewart's Signature Hats. Do these exist?dc


I'm also still waiting. Probably forever, too.
I believe only prototypes exist. The ones with the Rhythmatist logo on SC'c Tourzilla kit. Paiste was going to produce them, but for some reason didn't and pulled out. They should have been released during Tourzilla. I was hoping to get those with the sig kit, but got one of the closest matches; 12" Twentys.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2010 06:21
by Tamadude
Shit. Double post. Sorry

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 01 Mar 2010 14:08
by Dietmar
Mark Brzezicki (Big Country) !

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PostPosted: 02 Mar 2010 03:12
by zilboy
Dietmar wrote:Mark Brzezicki (Big Country) !

I was wondering when someone would mention him! The guy comes up with the coolest patterns. I was listening to their debut album just the other day.

My fave's from BC: The Crossing, Steeltown and Peace in Our Time.

Totally amazing underrated drummer.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 02 Mar 2010 03:20
by TheEqualizer
zilboy wrote:
Dietmar wrote:Mark Brzezicki (Big Country) !

I was wondering when someone would mention him! The guy comes up with the coolest patterns. I was listening to their debut album just the other day.

My fave's from BC: The Crossing, Steeltown and Peace in Our Time.

Totally amazing underrated drummer.


Word. I love his work with Pete Townshend.

Re: Tribute to the Hi Hat

PostPosted: 03 Mar 2010 23:36
by DirtyMartini
I don't know if this will be helpful at all, but a forum discussion elsewhere: "What Superior hi hat would be best for Stewart Copeland type playing?"