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1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 05:16
by New Zealand Promoter
http://www.tookooltokalypso.org/dssctm.html

Well worth revisiting... and i'm sure will inspire discussion.
Vic Garbini - credible enough source, although I'd like to know exactly how he got his information in support of writing in the third person about the motivations and feelings of Sting et al...

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 16:50
by TheEqualizer
Thanks. Great great article. I hadn't been to that site in a long time.

Yep - just what the tracks from ZM needed -- more keyboards. :roll:

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 16:53
by policefan
Wow, interesting (especially the movie part)! Thanks for sharing tj7.

I take Stewart's side!

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 17:53
by oneworld
Thanks so much for this. I didn't know much about the re-recording of DSSCTM and I didn't think the conflicts they had were that serious. Poor Stewart, had no idea he was in the hospital. Also, I think it was too much that Sting wanted everything to go his way no matter what - this was a band, not a solo project... :roll: It looked like Stewart wanted to do anything to just make the band work, but Sting didn't seem to care... he even changed the drum parts :roll:

It seemed like such a sad ending to me, even that version of the song sounds kind of distant and cold to me, like they were saying goodbye even though maybe they didn't want to...

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 18:13
by secretjourneyranch
Vic Garbarini

A long time Stones journalist
If he wrote it, its true.

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 25 Jul 2009 19:20
by smudge
I'm sure there are facts in there. I'm also pretty sure that the author wasn't hanging out in three or four people's brains at the time. What an odd piece.

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 26 Jul 2009 00:47
by samburusunset
Yes, definitely nice to revisit this one. Makes one wonder what the scene was like during the Tourzilla rehearsals.

I'm sure there *are* facts, but I'm sure there's creative license too.
Of course, I think the conflict was an integral part of the magic, too. Maybe they could have used a little less :roll:

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2009 14:59
by DirtyMartini
Such a tabloidy piece -- which I think is sad because I think there really is good, factual material buried in it. Thanks for the reminder of it, tj7.

Random factoid: Garbarini spent a lot of time interviewing Sting during the recording of Dream of the Blue Turtles. He also sang on it. (I can't remember exactly, but I think I remember that he was with Sting, just hanging out, when Sting found out that either his mother or father had died.)

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2009 18:01
by Bob from NJ
Garbarini got to know all 3 members of the Police as a reporter for Musician magazine in the early 1980s. The one issue they're on the cover he wrote what may have been a 10,000-word piece, so he was probably well in the know for the '86 reunion piece. Garbarini is also featured briefly in the Bring on the Night movie.

In addition, I believe it was the late 1990s, he did a profile with the twist that it was the first joint interview by the band since their breakup. He was with two band members at the time and I believe the other was on a conference call. That was a fun read.

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 27 Jul 2009 19:37
by thedaner
[quote="Bob from NJ"]In addition, I believe it was the late 1990s, he did a profile with the twist that it was the first joint interview by the band since their breakup. He was with two band members at the time and I believe the other was on a conference call. That was a fun read.[/quote]

I read where Garbarini WAS supposed to write Sting's biography but obviously we have Broken Music. Better that it's from the source, I guess.

Anyhow, those interviews (the audio, that is) were supposed to be included in the Police catalog remasters. Dave & Wendy from Stingchronicity filled me in--Stewart was the one chiming in on an ISDN line; Andy and Sting were together in Italy. I wonder if adding those as bonus tracks were shot down by El Gordo.

That '86 article is great. I remember finding it when TP.com first launched. Always good to revisit.

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 28 Jul 2009 16:46
by 63falcon
Great read, and a little sad at the same time. I was beginning to realize at that time a sad end to what I had once thought was an ideal relationship of my own.....

Than you for posting a good read.

Re: 1986. The End. Essential Reading.

PostPosted: 29 Jul 2009 00:32
by Ramuthra
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