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Postby lisaspear on 16 Jul 2007 16:30

To Yob:

I appreciate your thoughtful post. Even better, I appreciate you citing where the whole Tantric mess started. I have tried to explain that to many friends but the constant media mention of it leaves me outnumbered and exhausted

Having said that I have read some very unkind things about Sting here. Do they bug me? Sometimes. But I have to realize that this is STEWART's board. Stewarts people. Shamefully I am not a member of Sting.com :oops: therefor I can not comment as to what is said about Stewart on there. Personally I adore Stewart. Admittedly though not for as long as these folks here. As I have mentioned on TPT I was a Sting fan first then The Police. Also admittedly I only recently have come to appreciate Stewart in my "older" years. I won't say I am old. :) I was blinded by my Sting devotion back in the day. So much so that I didn't fully appreciate the genius that Stewart is. I regret that. But it does not make me adore Sting any less. Just a new appreciation for Stewart albeit a bit delayed.

blah blah whatever and so forth.

The Police are back together. All three of them. And I am seeing them in less than 2 weeks. And that is first time I have said (typed) that today. I think I am going to throw up now. WOOO HOOOO!
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Postby Kalypso on 16 Jul 2007 16:44

Lisa

I hope the teasing of Stingo here has not hurt your feelings too much, I just love to tease him, but I am sure that everybody here acknowledges and appreciates the "magic" chemistry that created our favorite group and that would certainly not have happened without Stingo.

It's just that we love Stewart more! There is no "war" between the fandoms, rather "sibling rivalry" (am I quoting someone here?)...we tease our loved ones but then it's I love you to the point of embarrassment...(quote again?)

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Postby Kalypso on 16 Jul 2007 16:46

...exactly as in your Avatar, Lisa....It could be a poster for brotherly love...
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Postby Jennythenipper on 16 Jul 2007 17:31

[quote="lisaspear"]To Yob:


The Police are back together. All three of them. And I am seeing them in less than 2 weeks. And that is first time I have said (typed) that today. I think I am going to throw up now. WOOO HOOOO![/quote]

Dude, get me a trash can!

Woooo Hooo for you, Lisa. I know your going to freak out seeing all three of em on stage.

I was inspired to scream my love for all three of them at various moments of awesomeness in the concert.
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Postby policerule on 16 Jul 2007 17:53

lisa.... only playful teasing of stingo on here i think - at least from what i've seen. i have a ton of respect for him as a musician and i do like the majority of his (luteless) solo stuff. he's just an easy target!
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Postby Jennythenipper on 16 Jul 2007 22:19

[quote="policerule"]lisa.... only playful teasing of stingo on here i think - at least from what i've seen. i have a ton of respect for him as a musician and i do like the majority of his (luteless) solo stuff. he's just an easy target![/quote]

Not that I'm trying to stir up trouble but there is a Stewart Quote thread right now that kind of reveals the levels of (friendly) hostility that have existed between Sting and Stewart. It shouldn't be a shocker that some of that teasing cuts a bit deep and some of its carried over into the fan forums etc.
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Postby Kalypso on 16 Jul 2007 22:25

Jen, to tell you the truth the one "He should have been drowned at birth" shocked me a little bit too, and I am not easily shocked...Stu must really have been mightily PO that day...
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Postby Hannaha on 16 Jul 2007 22:30

It was definitely said in jest Kalypso - it was an interview with the three of them and they were ribbing the hell out of each other. You can read the whole interview here:

http://www.scarlet.nl/~gugten/article11.html

It's a doozy!
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Postby Kalypso on 16 Jul 2007 22:34

Thanks.
You're officially my favorite cellist (Yo-Yo Ma who?)

And yes, it is spelled CELLO, abbreviation of the Italian VIOLONCELLO
(Dad is a conductor).
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Postby Hannaha on 16 Jul 2007 22:35

[quote="Kalypso"]Thanks.
You're officially my favorite cellist (Yo-Yo Ma who?)

And yes, it is spelled CELLO, abbreviation of the Italian VIOLONCELLO
(Dad is a conductor).[/quote]

Haha! thanks Kalypso - the amount of times people have referred to me as a "celloist" and I've held my tongue... grrrrr!
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Postby Hannaha on 16 Jul 2007 22:40

Cellist jokes (a bit like drummer jokes):

Q: How do you keep your violin from getting stolen?
A: Put it in a cello case.

Q: What's the difference between a cello and a coffin?
A: The coffin has the dead person on the inside.

Q: Why do cellists stand for long periods outside their houses?
A: They can't find the key and they don't know when to come in.

Q: Why is a cello solo like a bomb?
A: By the time you hear it, it's too late to do anything about it.

Q: A conductor and a cellist are standing in the middle of the road. Which one do you run over first, and why?
A: The conductor. Business before pleasure.

Feel free to add your own :D
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Postby Divemistress of the Dark on 16 Jul 2007 23:44

Sheez. My mom's a lawyer, and even attorney jokes pale compared to all that...
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Postby Kalypso on 16 Jul 2007 23:49

[quote]Q: A conductor and a cellist are standing in the middle of the road. Which one do you run over first, and why?
A: The conductor. Business before pleasure. [/quote]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"That's why actors and musicians used to be buried in non-consacrated ground" my dad would say...
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Postby Hannaha on 16 Jul 2007 23:53

There are worse jokes about viola players - the whole orchestra hates viola players ;)
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Postby sockii on 16 Jul 2007 23:53

Regarding the whole Sting vs. Stewart thing, you know...I could write a freakin' essay on this subject.

I think both sides of the coin have their justifiable beefs. As has been pointed out (repeatedly), Sting's a bit of an easy target, certainly if you look in the media.

And yet, here's the thing. A lot of us who have been die-hard Stewart fans for years...it's not that we DISLIKE Sting or want to take away from what he's done, we just feel that for a very long, long time, the "other guys" haven't gotten anywhere near the credit they've deserved for their musical contributions (either in the Police or elsewhere).

Look at all the jokes in the media about this being the "retirement fund tour" for Stewart & Andy.

Listen to how many times radio announcers have--for years--introduced Police songs as being by "STING (and oh yeah, The Police)."

Raise hands if you're a Stewart or Andy fan who's had to hear someone say to you, "Oh, but Sting *was* the Police, wasn't he?"

For many, many years, as someone who was a fan long before the internet made it easier for us all to connect, I sure know I felt *extremely lonely* out there as a dedicated Stewart fan (and Andy fan too if not to the same extent). Even when I found and joined the xmission mailing list, one of the first on-line police fan communities back in the early '90s, at the time it was about 90% solo-Sting discussion with the occasional little blip about "the other guys" or something Police-related. So, you know, I tend to think that's why some of us have become a bit defensive and quick to jump on the Stewart bandwagon here to such an extent that it may--unintentionally, quite likely--take on an anti-Sting vibe at times.

I'll be perfectly honest, I've given solo-Sting a fair chance and for the most part it's just not my bag. As even Stewart has (more or less) said in some interviews, even as Sting's songwriting skills only sharpened through the years, he's surrounded himself with musicians who don't really thrill me and I don't think bring out the full potential of what he's written the way Stewart and Andy did. BUT that's Sting's choice, and obviously it's been enough to garner him a big following and fanbase all his own, even to an extent that I know there are more than a few solo-Sting fans who don't like his Police stuff at all.

So I try to stay out of the Sting-bashing because nothing can take away, for me, how much I love what he can do with Stewart & Andy, and if he's made stylistic choices since then I don't care for, so be it. But I do get upset when I feel folks are belittling Stewart & Andy and that may get me on the defensive, but it's something that stems more from many decades of feeling isolated in my fondness for their work than the current on-line fandom. I met a lot of extremely cool people from sting.com when I was in L.A. in February and I have no "beef" with Sting fans in general. Just don't begrudge "my guy" his due and I will do the same in return.
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