The Cover of Stewart's book revealed?

[samburusunset]

[quote="DirtyMartini"]At the risk of being a wet blanket here, perhaps such currently private information as the cover photo should not be shared online? The publisher has, after all, chosen not to post the cover, and neither has Stewart. We may not be talking about the codes to the nuclear silos, but we are talking about non-public info -- and as we've all learned, Stewart's private little site ain't.


[Edited cuz I hiccuped.][/quote]


Word.

[sockii]

I'm reminded of a quote from The Man himself:

[quote] It’s resonating and reaching it’s crescendo before the stage has fully reached its position. Sort of like a premature ejaculation.[/quote]

[nancyrose]

Thank you, Kellie.

Dan, your post has disturbed me all day, and not just because I, personally, could have lived without the "spoiler." Call me old-fashioned, but I believe that being a guest in someone's home does not entitle you to make thinly-veiled allusions to information gleaned there that was not intended to be public. It just feels very wrong to me, and I wish it hadn't happened.

[luddite lady]

I hope I haven't provided the catalyst for a divisive debate of flag-like proportions. We haven't had one of those dust-ups here in a while.

However, for the record, I agree with nancyrose's sentiments. I read pluto's post very early in the morning. In my bleary eyed glee, I assumed this info was being passed on with Stewart's blessing. A little later in the day, I started to wonder if that was really the case, and like bella, wondered if the code pluto wrote in was really code enough. I appreciate that Dan was just eager to satisfy my curiosity and that of others. Thanks for that. Nonetheless, I do regret that my insatiable need to know may have caused somebody to unintentionally overstep the often blurred line that marks out the private domain of a public figure.

[njperry]

I really don't think Stewart will mind these hints at all. He knows his guests post here and I am assuming he didn't indicate that he wanted it not revealed.

When the publisher reveals the cover has nothing to do with when Stewart wants it since the author is as key to the process at this point as a groom is at many weddings.

And it builds excitement among the fans, which is a good thing.

This is a preview of a soon to be public item. It isn't like Dan cataloged the medicines in the bathroom cabinet.

So I personally don't see a need for a wet blanket (despite the contrary judgment of several whose views I trust).

[plutonic]

[quote="DirtyMartini"]At the risk of being a wet blanket here, perhaps such currently private information as the cover photo should not be shared online? The publisher has, after all, chosen not to post the cover, and neither has Stewart. We may not be talking about the codes to the nuclear silos, but we are talking about non-public info -- and as we've all learned, Stewart's private little site ain't.


[Edited cuz I hiccuped.][/quote]

Gee, Kellie, no one but you with your powerful insight could possibly have considered this. Chill.

This isn't some big fucking mystery. The Publisher has a placeholder up. We saw another possible cover design. Who the fuck knows if it will actually be the eventual design.

I'm quite certain Stewart doesn't give a flying fuck about the hint I posted. I wouldn't have posted it if I had any doubt.

For those of you who feel spoiled by the spoiler, whoops.

Rest assured, even if you know the pic at which I hinted, you don't know what the cover looks like. Neither do I, as I think the design was kinda preliminary. So there's still plenty to be amazed and surprised by.

Not to mention the old saying not to judge a book by its cover, eh? I didn't mention what was on the inside....

Oh yeah, and the medicines in the cabinet were....

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[Mrs. Gradenko]

[quote="njperry"]I really don't think Stewart will mind these hints at all. He knows his guests post here and I am assuming he didn't indicate that he wanted it not revealed. [/quote]
If he showed it to Dietmar, he knows we're going to subtly hear about it.

[DirtyMartini]

[quote="njperry"]When the publisher reveals the cover has nothing to do with when Stewart wants it since the author is as key to the process at this point as a groom is at many weddings.[/quote]

Actually that's not true except in rare cases. Stewart is the groom at this wedding, yes, but in most publishing situations (like most grooms) he has nothing to do with most of the process. He has his part -- and it's a damn vital one -- but the publisher is generally the Bridezilla who tells him what to wear and where to stand.

HarperStudio runs on a profit-sharing (rather than advanced-based) system, so their authors may get more input -- I don't know. I don't know the contractual specifics, and I have no intention of asking. But in standard cases authors only have so much sway unless they're established (think Stephen King) or self-publishing. Many don't even see their covers until they're in production.


[quote="plutonic"]Gee, Kellie, no one but you with your powerful insight could possibly have considered this. Chill.[/quote]

My powerful insight and I are quite chill, Dan, thanks.


[quote="njperry"]He knows his guests post here and I am assuming he didn't indicate that he wanted it not revealed.[/quote]

I'm more of an opt-in girl myself. Fewer problems arise.


As I said, we're not talking about missile codes. Stewart might not care and neither might the publisher. Doesn't actually matter. They themselves haven't shared the information, and it's their business to decide what to reveal or not -- and in this case, it is their actual business as well. I fully understand people's curiosity, and I share in much of it myself. But I also think erring on the side of discretion and a respect for privacy is prudent, especially information revealed in a private situation and posted on a public forum with Stewart Copeland's name across the top, and I have my concerns in this case. Some agree; some don't.

[plutonic]

[quote="DirtyMartini"]
As I said, we're not talking about missile codes. Stewart might not care and neither might the publisher. Doesn't actually matter. They themselves haven't shared the information, and it's their business to decide what to reveal or not -- and in this case, it is their actual business as well. I fully understand people's curiosity, and I share in much of it myself. But I also think erring on the side of discretion and a respect for privacy is prudent, especially information revealed in a private situation and posted on a public forum with Stewart Copeland's name across the top, and I have my concerns in this case. Some agree; some don't.
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Meg asked point blank if Stewart was cool with us sharing the bit about the cover. He said yes. Why is it you ASSUME some line was transgressed?

Shut the fuck up.

[GinaSuperCat]

It was a respectful discussion until the last post...it upsets me to see things go ugly like that especially since I <3 you all...

You kind of let that assumption foster...Why let people wonder for two pages...Mentioning that earlier might have avoided unnecessary escalation, don't ya think?

[DirtyMartini]

[quote="plutonic"]Meg asked point blank if Stewart was cool with us sharing the bit about the cover. He said yes. Why is it you ASSUME some line was transgressed?[/quote]

I formed an opinion based on the information provided here in this thread, as did half a dozen others. I am not inside your head or Stewart's or anyone else's, and I don't pretend to know what's there. I erred on the side of caution and expressed my concerns to a situation that I felt problematic. I'm happy to be corrected if my concerns are unfounded.

Thanks for the further information.


[quote="plutonic"]Shut the fuck up.[/quote]

Dan, I don't know what your problem is with me personally right now as I just happened to be the first to express a dissenting opinion that some others felt as well. I have no personal stake in this topic, and we have neither spoken nor seen each other in months, so if we've had conflict recently, I seem to have missed it.

I do at the moment have to shut the fuck because I need to get out of the house for a while, but after that, I make no promises.

[plutonic]

Oh for fuck's sake, as Phaty would say.

Respectfully, Gina, I disagree.

I hinted at it because I thought that would be more fun, and I thought everybody here would enjoy the inside joke.

Let it foster?
I'm sorry, I'm not on this goddamned board 24 hours a day.
I didn't even IMAGINE it would cause a stink.

By the time I got back here I was being lynched for an imaginary transgression. And if you look back, I said I was absolutely certain it was OK in my first response to Kellie's meddling. Albeit snarkily, I tried to respond with a little humor.

I guess I'm kind of wondering WHY the automatic ASSUMPTION was that I was speaking out of turn.

I'm rightfully pissed because I'm being lambasted in public for an imaginary transgression.

This whole thing causes me to wonder: if everybody's being so respectful and discrete, why not contact me directly if you think I've fucked up? Wouldn't you prefer that to being accosted on the forum?

[policerule]

[quote="GinaSuperCat"]It was a respectful discussion until the last post...it upsets me to see things go ugly like that especially since I <3 you all...

You kind of let that assumption foster...Why let people wonder for two pages...Mentioning that earlier might have avoided unnecessary escalation, don't ya think?[/quote]


Well, yeah. No matter what the hell anyone says on here, there is absolutely no reason to tell someone to shut the fuck up.


If permission was given to reveal the possible cover, why not just come out and say it rather than hint? All of this could have been avoided with straightforwardness.

[plutonic]

[quote="policerule"]
Well, yeah. No matter what the hell anyone says on here, there is absolutely no reason to tell someone to shut the fuck up.
[/quote]

You are right. I'm sorry for that.

I was emotional after coming back here to read more bullshit about what an asshole I am for things other people imagine I have done.

[quote="policerule"]
If permission was given to reveal the possible cover, why not just come out and say it rather than hint? All of this could have been avoided with straightforwardness.
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I said I was certain.
That wasn't a hint.

[njperry]

Can we please move on.

This is an ugly disagreement between people who like each other over really nothing. Stewart said it was okay but we didn't know that.

I hate to see this fine community fight over something so small and start using words that are not.