Stewart snubbed by Modern Drummer

[Rhianntp]

Neil Peart, but no Bruford, Copeland or Porcaro? Those three names defined what it meant to be a drummer in the 70's and 80's ....sheesh

[jeffdaweasel]

I"m really not thrilled about Bruford's omission either. Not as much as Stewart's, but still...

[Three over Four]

These so called 'definitive' lists are quite the joke. Does anyone else notice that the rags always put 1 or 2 rather current people on lists such as these? Probably to sell more copies to the young fans since as many have already noted, it will take many years before it can truly be determined if some of these drummers will have a lasting impact on the art.

[Rhianntp]

I can understand why they feel the need to draw in younger fans by putting in the newer/ less talented drummers, but then why not just make it a longer list and put those guys at the back end? That way the younger people will still see their guys, and maybe be interested in who these dudes are at the top and start listening to the real masters. Or at least have some appreciation for how much better Copeland, Porcaro, Bruford, and Peart are than anyone more recent.
Hmm....was Bernard Purdie on that list? He was a real pimp on drums in his day as well .. hehe

[Rhianntp]

I'm grateful they didn't include Lars Ulrich though

[Three over Four]

[quote]I'm grateful they didn't include Lars Ulrich though [/quote]

AGREED. Dave Lombardo or even newcomer Chris Adler have done much more impactful things on the drums than ol' douchy magee.

[New Zealand Promoter]

the fact that vinnie wasn't in the top 10 proves that this list is entirely devoid of credibility at all. next topic.

[Kalypso]

VINNIE wasn't in the top 3? Who did they have, Tony Orlando's drummer?

The mag should change the title into Modern Deaf Critics

[Kalypso]

P.S. Dave Grohl would agree with those who say Taylor is a better drummer than him. The guy is so cool he could be used as air conditioned..

[TheEqualizer]

I wanted to clarify that the drummers were not listed in order of rank. I listed them in the order they appeared in the magazine. The order appears to be based simply in the years that either they first came onto the scene or came into prominence. If they were to be listed in order, I'm pretty sure that Buddy Rich would have been #1, as he was main picture on the cover (and that's pretty much common sense as well).

As an aside, while Grohl has said that Taylor is a better drummer, I think that is just giving props to a bandmate. I think David is really at a different level than Taylor. As far as Grohl being a post-modern Moon, if he is a post modern anyone, I would say he's more like a post-modern Bonham.

[Kalypso]

Equalizer, I totally agree. There is only ONE Keith Moon. He was a natural source of ADD addled power.
When Nirvana was Everything, I loved Dave's drumming. But I saw the Foos in concert last year and Dave, apart from being an amazing singer *the best of Live Earth for me*, guitarist, composer and storyteller, was complimenting Taylor all the time and mentioned Led Zep among his very young influences.

As you know, Tay had severe drug issues, therefore you can understand that Dave is more than supportive for a number of reasons.

As for the Modern Drummer's readers, their opinions pretty much coincide with ours:
http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/show ... php?t=1061

[TheEqualizer]

In defense of the Modern Drummer special issue, despite the lack of Stewart, it is actually a pretty good issue. It serves as a pretty good Reader's Digest version of the history of modern drumming. I can imagine that it could be very enlightening to many reader who may not know some of the older masters. If the issue causes a few people to discovery some great drum classics that they woudl new have discovered otherwise (like Birds of Fire for example), I think the issue was worthwhile putting out.

[GinaSuperCat]

Well, who knows, great drummers have been known to give props to others, especially when they have nothing to prove themselves anymore and they can be positive. Well, cept Buddy <grin> Stewart said that Brain just "took his lunch" and that drummers today start, chops wise, pretty much where Stewart left off...now, the funny thing is that I can tell it's Stewart or Grohl because of the way they play...they are in a position to be able say good things about others...as for who's right...I dunno. I;d imagine, somewhat, that Dave could be speaking the truth, as he sees it, but I imagine given the attention he's gotten as a drummer and the fact that many people would like to see him behind the kit still, he's probably trying to efface some of his own legacy and hand it on over to Taylor, he's the drummer for the Foos, and he's a damn smoking one too...As much as I love them, I don't think the drum-offs were really helping with this impression...Dave's handed it over to some extremely capable hands...

But then again Stewart and Dave are my top 2 favorite drummers (I love hard hitters & players with more finesse than appears on the surface)...Dave Lovering too...and Glen Kotche....and ?uestlove <giggle> But that doesn't mean I'd be confused over questions of "legacy" or "influence"...that'd be a different list...and, as I said, would include most of those on the MD list, but c'mon Stewart? Especially since MD printed he's the most influential drummer of the last 25 years? I mean, for reals...<grin> I'm sure we could all at least agree Stewart should be on the list, and Travis off <grin>

[zilboy]

My wife is always asking me why I don't subscribe to Modern Drummer. This is why. Their editorial staff has always been a bunch of idiots and their journalists are condescending hacks.

Maybe it's because Stew hasn't appeared in a video with his schlong flapping all over?

(Yeah, I'm a stodgy old crumudgeon - deal with it.)

[Kalypso]

Are you referring to Iggy? He's no drummer.
But I agree with you on the mag.