When ever I see some pictures of the flag from the gig, from the parking lot or from where ever it is flying - I get scared shitless about the time we have it in Europe.
At the European concerts there are no chairs on the floor there is just a moshpit no sections nothing. That should mean a few thousand people - hopefully dacing and jumping. As I am the oldest fart in my group who goes I guess there will be a pretty young audiance. The European Police gigs will see a very different kind of fan compared to the US ...
So I said it to DM before I am afraid the flag will be in danger - and god knows I would be ready to die ... flag survival and all this!
For the gigs in Munich and Mannheim it won't be that hard for Stu to spot his troops - check this picture and guess how of those two is in charge of the flag ...
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1424/559 ... 630b_b.jpg
Yes they both stand level on the ground!
I also just got a t-shirt done that says: "Get ouf of my way Sting, the drummer wants to see me!"
Still I think about having a "copy" done for the waving part of the show while the original sleeps in a jacket pocket ... !
I would hate to be the one who has to call DM that night telling her bad news ... I hate it when girls have a nervous breakdown.
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by BongoBoy on 20 Jul 2007 16:23
What about a clear plastic bag type idea ?
I dunno if that's stupid but it could still be seen and it would be beer and mud proof !
Just an idea....but like you said, maybe a big color photocopy to hold up?
Hey you could "lamenate" (?) y'know how they melt plastic on it. Then you could have your own FLAG copy.
I'm freaking out now....it's so close.
How the FUCK am I supposed to work. I am so pumped I am buying a couple "tins" of yummy beer for my everyday train ride home. I am handing out tins to a few of my "train buddies"...just to celebrate everything...wisdom teeth done....smoking done...Vespa done....and the upcoming Police extravaganza !!!
whew.
Cheers.
I dunno if that's stupid but it could still be seen and it would be beer and mud proof !
Just an idea....but like you said, maybe a big color photocopy to hold up?
Hey you could "lamenate" (?) y'know how they melt plastic on it. Then you could have your own FLAG copy.
I'm freaking out now....it's so close.
How the FUCK am I supposed to work. I am so pumped I am buying a couple "tins" of yummy beer for my everyday train ride home. I am handing out tins to a few of my "train buddies"...just to celebrate everything...wisdom teeth done....smoking done...Vespa done....and the upcoming Police extravaganza !!!
whew.
Cheers.
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by Kalypso on 20 Jul 2007 16:31
Gina was talking of asshats passing gas in Cleveland...That is going to be even worse in Europe.. (especially England, sorry to say, but I remember being "farted out" from the first rows by some huge gorillas at the Lyceum (when it still existed) during a Kinks' concert...It is a guerilla tactic to keep the angry ppl behind you far from your flailing and asshatting, especially scrawny 5'5' girls like I was.
However, a scary look from phats should do the trick!
However, a scary look from phats should do the trick!
"Loa-ded, and ready for a-ction! [wink]"
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by GinaSuperCat on 20 Jul 2007 16:32
Ya, I've had same concerns since I'm flag bearer for Amsterdam and I'm in the field both nights but what I plan on doing is keeping it im my bag (like a little backpack thingy) and seeing what the scene is like and how far forward I get. I will only take it out a bit later in the show (after the initial mania of the first few songs is down a bit) and only bringing it out once I feel comfortable...I'm hoping some other SCnetters will be near me but if not, no worry I'll be cautious! Elbows will be out and pumas on my feet so I'll try to wrangle a good position for the flag but the First Law of the Flag is FLag Survival!
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by DirtyMartini on 20 Jul 2007 17:39
Phaty, I think it would be more like a frantic punchdown than a nervous breakdown. But the substitute flag idea is why phaty will always have a special place in my heart. And in my spleen.
The General Admission set-up on the floor will most definitely be cause for concern and fear. But I also don't want you guys to have to kill yourselves making decoys, etc.
If anything, I would suggest you just keep the Flag in your pocket/purse (in its plastic bags is probably a good idea) and just pull it out at the end during the encores/bows. If you can get close enough for Stewart to spot it (without crowd risk) during a song, then great -- but then you'll probably want to put it away again until the bows. The hardest part is getting that first spotting -- but after that, he's fully aware of where to look.
I -- and every one of Copelandia -- am trusting you folks to keep this flag alive; I know you will do your best. And honestly, if you really think the situation is too dangerous for the flag, just keep it stored. Even when Stewart can't see it, he's being amply reminded that it's out there for him. Out of sight, in this case, does not mean out of mind. I think -- I hope -- Stewart knows that.
Of course, it would be pretty hilarious to see phaty hold up a big green piece of paper with the words "FLAG SUBSTITUTE" written across it.
Thank you guys for remembering that the First Law of the Flag is Flag Survival. And thank you so much for the generosity and energy you have all put forth into this project. I don't think I'll ever get over how much this flag has come to mean to so many -- or how much it has come to mean to me. Thank you all.
The General Admission set-up on the floor will most definitely be cause for concern and fear. But I also don't want you guys to have to kill yourselves making decoys, etc.
If anything, I would suggest you just keep the Flag in your pocket/purse (in its plastic bags is probably a good idea) and just pull it out at the end during the encores/bows. If you can get close enough for Stewart to spot it (without crowd risk) during a song, then great -- but then you'll probably want to put it away again until the bows. The hardest part is getting that first spotting -- but after that, he's fully aware of where to look.
I -- and every one of Copelandia -- am trusting you folks to keep this flag alive; I know you will do your best. And honestly, if you really think the situation is too dangerous for the flag, just keep it stored. Even when Stewart can't see it, he's being amply reminded that it's out there for him. Out of sight, in this case, does not mean out of mind. I think -- I hope -- Stewart knows that.
Of course, it would be pretty hilarious to see phaty hold up a big green piece of paper with the words "FLAG SUBSTITUTE" written across it.
Thank you guys for remembering that the First Law of the Flag is Flag Survival. And thank you so much for the generosity and energy you have all put forth into this project. I don't think I'll ever get over how much this flag has come to mean to so many -- or how much it has come to mean to me. Thank you all.
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by Hannaha on 20 Jul 2007 18:09
[quote="Kalypso"]Gina was talking of asshats passing gas in Cleveland...That is going to be even worse in Europe.. (especially England, sorry to say, but I remember being "farted out" from the first rows by some huge gorillas at the Lyceum (when it still existed) during a Kinks' concert...It is a guerilla tactic to keep the angry ppl behind you far from your flailing and asshatting, especially scrawny 5'5' girls like I was.
However, a scary look from phats should do the trick![/quote]
Kalypso, are you claiming that British people are the trumpiest in Europe?!
However, a scary look from phats should do the trick![/quote]
Kalypso, are you claiming that British people are the trumpiest in Europe?!
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by Kalypso on 20 Jul 2007 18:15
Not at all...All gorilla-size guys downing peanuts and drinking beer are, no matter the nationality...(btw, what were "Oi"! -skinhead doing at a Kinks concert beats me)...
What I implied is that it was the only time I experienced that as a scare tactic to send ppl away from the front rows at concerts!
What I implied is that it was the only time I experienced that as a scare tactic to send ppl away from the front rows at concerts!
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by BongoBoy on 20 Jul 2007 18:19
...back to that picture of Phaty...
...isn't the solution just to get the little guy on Phaty's shoulders holding the FLAG ?
...anybody gets within 2 feet Phaty can hoof em in the balls or whatever.
Just an idea.
...OR MOUNT THE TOP OF A MUSIC STAND ON A HAT !....tape the FLAG to the stand, put the hat on Phaty's head....BINGO...nobody can Fucking reach up there and if they do....well....I hope someone has a mop handy.
I will now stop with these idea's as I can sense Phaty's displeasure at these goofy idea's.
but I like the hat idea..No No..NOT an AssHAt.
PHATYHAT.
Cheers.
...isn't the solution just to get the little guy on Phaty's shoulders holding the FLAG ?
...anybody gets within 2 feet Phaty can hoof em in the balls or whatever.
Just an idea.
...OR MOUNT THE TOP OF A MUSIC STAND ON A HAT !....tape the FLAG to the stand, put the hat on Phaty's head....BINGO...nobody can Fucking reach up there and if they do....well....I hope someone has a mop handy.
I will now stop with these idea's as I can sense Phaty's displeasure at these goofy idea's.
but I like the hat idea..No No..NOT an AssHAt.
PHATYHAT.
Cheers.
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